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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Abelardo Ricart III <aricart@memnix.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
	keyrings@linux-nfs.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: Should we automatically generate a module signing key at all?
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 13:55:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150519175510.GB26822@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3253.1432052599@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 05:23:19PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Did you mean make it possible to only use external hardware for storing the
> key?  That wouldn't very convenient for building our kernels in our build farm
> - we have a lot of machines and all of them would have to be equiped with the
> key.  Besides, we *want* to discard the private key where possible as soon as
> possible because then we can't leak it and we can't be forced to disclose it.

Oh, so you are generating a one-time key for each kernel build, and
then dropping the public key into a cert which is then signed by some
trusted CA system?  (Which I presume *would* be done with the private
key stored in some trusted secured hardware --- i.e., YubiKey,
SmartCard, or some other tempest-shielded hardware designed for use by
CA's)?

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-19 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-18 16:04 David Howells
2015-05-18 16:19 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-18 16:22   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-18 16:55     ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-18 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19  0:51   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19  7:42     ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 17:44     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 17:58       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 18:08         ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 18:12           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:38             ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 18:49               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 20:00                 ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 20:05                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 20:25                     ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 18:44           ` David Howells
2015-05-19 19:01             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 16:10             ` David Howells
2015-05-21 16:50               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23 20:37       ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-20  5:01     ` Rusty Russell
2015-05-19  8:53   ` David Howells
2015-05-19 12:46     ` David Woodhouse
2015-05-19 12:52     ` David Howells
2015-05-19 14:36     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 15:37       ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 15:53         ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-19 17:17         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 15:30     ` David Howells
2015-05-19 15:55       ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-05-19 16:09         ` Petko Manolov
2015-05-19 17:32         ` Mimi Zohar
2015-05-19 17:43           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 17:53             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-19 16:23       ` David Howells
2015-05-19 17:55         ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2015-05-19 18:10         ` David Howells
2015-05-19 21:47         ` Jiri Kosina
2015-05-20  7:45           ` Michal Marek
2015-05-20  7:47         ` Michal Marek
2015-05-19 17:17       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:38       ` David Howells
2015-05-19 18:46         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-19 18:50         ` David Howells
2015-05-19 18:57         ` David Howells
2015-05-19 19:06           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-21 15:59           ` David Howells
2015-05-21 23:54 George Spelvin
2015-05-22  0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22  0:10   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 14:13   ` George Spelvin
2015-05-22 20:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 20:44       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 21:09         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 22:18         ` David Howells
2015-05-22 22:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-05-22 22:15     ` David Howells
2015-05-22 22:19       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 22:21       ` David Howells
2015-05-22  0:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-05-22 12:42   ` George Spelvin

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