From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
To: noloader@gmail.com
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
andi@firstfloor.org, Sandy Harris <sandyinchina@gmail.com>,
cryptography@lakedaemon.net, jsd@av8n.com, hpa@zytor.com,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] random: add interrupt callback to VMBus IRQ handler
Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 11:14:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1465960.gVT9QnQ1pA@tauon.atsec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH8yC8nFUm6-+AhYWCHiLCucCbcOu5Hba21tzAaonVyH6OZOAA@mail.gmail.com>
Am Montag, 2. Mai 2016, 05:00:47 schrieb Jeffrey Walton:
Hi Jeffrey,
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
> > From: Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>
> >
> > The Hyper-V Linux Integration Services use the VMBus implementation for
> > communication with the Hypervisor. VMBus registers its own interrupt
> > handler that completely bypasses the common Linux interrupt handling.
> > This implies that the interrupt entropy collector is not triggered.
> > ...
>
> Stephan correctly identified the problem of virtualized environments
> in his paper, but there does not appear to be any real defenses in
> place for VM rollback attacks.
The issue the patch addresses is only that on Hyper-V with para-virt drivers,
the /dev/random implementation does not receive interrupts.
The issue of rollback (if you refer to activating an earlier saved image of
the guest) is a real issue the guest cannot do anything about it that is
effective (i.e. the guest can do without the help of the VMM). Note, rollback
is just a special case of a much broader issue of the duplication of the RNG
state by the VMM (be it snapshots, move of a guest to another VMM,
suspend/resume, ...). However, the patch to enable interrupts does not seem to
be related to that issue as interrupts are not re-issued in case of rollbacks,
are they?
Ciao
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-02 9:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-02 6:26 [RFC PATCH 0/3] random: replace urandom pool with a CRNG Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02 6:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] random: replace non-blocking pool with a Chacha20-based CRNG Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-03 8:50 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-04 16:54 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-04 17:30 ` tytso
2016-05-04 17:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-03 9:36 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-04 6:24 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-04 14:40 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-04 17:49 ` tytso
2016-05-04 18:22 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-04 18:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-04 19:07 ` tytso
2016-05-04 20:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-04 21:42 ` John Denker
2016-05-04 21:52 ` better patch for linux/bitops.h John Denker
2016-05-05 1:35 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05 2:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05 2:54 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05 3:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05 3:30 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05 3:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-05 4:03 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05 6:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05 16:15 ` UB in general ... and linux/bitops.h in particular John Denker
2016-05-05 17:32 ` Andi Kleen
2016-05-06 2:25 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05 21:34 ` better patch for linux/bitops.h Sandy Harris
2016-05-05 22:18 ` tytso
2016-05-05 22:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05 22:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-06 0:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-04 21:56 ` [PATCH 1/3] random: replace non-blocking pool with a Chacha20-based CRNG H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-04 22:06 ` linux/bitops.h John Denker
2016-05-04 23:06 ` linux/bitops.h Andi Kleen
2016-05-05 0:13 ` linux/bitops.h John Denker
2016-05-05 1:20 ` linux/bitops.h Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-05 1:27 ` linux/bitops.h H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05 0:30 ` linux/bitops.h H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-05 0:48 ` linux/bitops.h Linus Torvalds
2016-05-06 20:08 ` linux/bitops.h Sasha Levin
2016-05-06 20:07 ` linux/bitops.h Sasha Levin
2016-05-06 20:25 ` linux/bitops.h H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-06 20:30 ` linux/bitops.h H. Peter Anvin
2016-05-02 6:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] random: make /dev/urandom scalable for silly userspace programs Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02 7:00 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-02 12:50 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02 13:48 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02 13:53 ` Stephan Mueller
2016-05-02 6:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] random: add interrupt callback to VMBus IRQ handler Theodore Ts'o
2016-05-02 9:00 ` Jeffrey Walton
2016-05-02 9:14 ` Stephan Mueller [this message]
2016-05-02 12:56 ` Theodore Ts'o
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