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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, tglx@linutronix.de
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	jeyu@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] retpoline/module: Taint kernel for missing retpoline in module
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:01:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1515783702.22302.488.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180112175507.31750-1-andi@firstfloor.org>

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On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 09:55 -0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
> 
> There's a risk that a kernel that has full retpoline mitigations
> becomes vulnerable when a module gets loaded that hasn't been
> compiled with the right compiler or the right option.
> 
> We cannot fix it, but should at least warn the user when that
> happens.
> 
> Add a flag to each module if it has been compiled with RETPOLINE
> 
> When the a module hasn't been compiled with a retpoline
> aware compiler, print a warning and set a taint flag.
> 
> For modules it is checked at compile time, however it cannot
> check assembler or other non compiled objects used in the module link.
> 
> Due to lack of better letter it uses taint option 'Z'
> 
> We only set the taint flag for incorrectly compiled modules
> now, not for the main kernel, which already has other
> report mechanisms.
> 
> Also make sure to report vulnerable for spectre if such a module
> has been loaded.

Thanks for reviving this; it got dropped partly because it has
conflicts between the tip/x86/pti tree and Linus' 4.15-rc.

The other reason for dropping it was because I think we probably want
to revisit this whole thing once we have all the mitigations in place.

It doesn't make a lot of sense to have a taint flag for a *partial*
retpoline, but not in the case that we have *no* mitigation in place.

So maybe we should drop the taint part, and just make the kernel report
that it is (partially) vulnerable to Spectre V2, just as in the
CONFIG_RETPOLINE && !RETPOLINE case?

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-12 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-12 17:55 Andi Kleen
2018-01-12 19:01 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2018-01-12 19:17   ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-13 14:12 ` Greg KH
2018-01-13 14:38   ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-13 15:37     ` Greg KH
2018-01-13 14:53   ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-13 15:36     ` Greg KH
2018-01-13 18:20       ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-16 20:08       ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-15 12:47 ` David Laight
2018-01-15 12:53   ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-01-15 13:01     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-15 14:08       ` David Laight
2018-01-15 16:48   ` Andi Kleen

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