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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>, x86-ml <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,  tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/cpufeatures: Cleanup AMD speculation feature bits
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 10:32:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1517049146.6624.5.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180127093722.t6dn4sgocihjjq37@pd.tnic>

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On Sat, 2018-01-27 at 10:37 +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 09:27:48AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > 
> > http://david.woodhou.se/cleanup-feature-bits.patch on top of my full
> > tree?
> @@ -223,7 +223,7 @@ static inline void indirect_branch_prediction_barrier(void)
>  				 "movl %[val], %%eax\n\t"
>  				 "movl $0, %%edx\n\t"
>  				 "wrmsr",
> -				 X86_FEATURE_IBPB)
> +				 X86_FEATURE_USE_IBPB)
> 
> I still don't think that's the right approach: I'd call the
> software-defined, synthetic features
> 
> X86_FEATURE_IBPB
> X86_FEATURE_IBRS
> X86_FEATURE_STIBP
> 
> then make *them* visible in /proc/cpuinfo and use them everywhere in the
> code.

No because cpuinfo should be information about the CPU. For details of
what mitigations are *actually* in use on this kernel, you want
/sys/…/cpu/vulnerabilities, which might not even be readable by a non-
root user.

That's why I've used the names that we want to see in cpuinfo, for the
basic CPU functionality.

> Only the vendor-specific detection code will set the synthetic ones when
> it detects a corresponding vendor-specific one.
> 
> This way one *only* concentrates on the three above everywhere and
> only low-level, early, vendor-specific code takes care to set the
> corresponding synthetic features based on the actual hardware bits it
> detects.
> 
> I think that unifies the view both to the user *and* to the rest of the
> kernel which should not care about the actual name of a hardware feature
> bit.
> 
> And then you avoid coders scratching heads, asking, so what should I
> use, X86_FEATURE_IBPB or X86_FEATURE_USE_IBPB.

Does it exist, vs. whether the kernel is *using* it. The latter being a
little bit of a hack because alternatives *only* let us do this stuff
based on "CPU features", which is why X86_FEATURE_PTI exists.

That one probably shouldn't be user-visible in /proc/cpuinfo *either*,
should it?

> Instead you call IBPB the synthetic one and the hardware feature name is
> something different like PRED_CMD or so. This will drop the confusion
> additionally.

I think I covered this, but for clarity: No, because the *hardware*
feature is the one we want to be called just "ibpb" in /proc/cpuinfo.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-27 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-25 16:14 [PATCH v5 0/7] Basic Speculation Control feature support David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:14 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPUID_7_EDX CPUID leaf David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 14:59   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:14 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] x86/cpufeatures: Add Intel feature bits for Speculation Control David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 15:00   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:14 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] x86/cpufeatures: Add AMD " David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 21:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 21:37     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-25 21:41     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-26 15:00   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 18:41     ` [PATCH] x86/cpufeatures: Cleanup AMD speculation feature bits Borislav Petkov
2018-01-26 18:45       ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 18:49         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-26 21:06           ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-26 21:52             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-26 21:59               ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 22:10                 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-26 23:14                   ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-27  8:49                     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-27  9:27                     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-27  9:37                       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-27 10:32                         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2018-01-27 13:18                           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-25 16:14 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] x86/msr: Add definitions for new speculation control MSRs David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 15:00   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:14 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] x86/pti: Do not enable PTI on processors which are not vulnerable to Meltdown David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 18:10   ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-25 19:53     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-25 22:00   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-26 15:01   ` [tip:x86/pti] x86/pti: Do not enable PTI on CPUs " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:14 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] x86/cpufeature: Blacklist SPEC_CTRL/PRED_CMD on early Spectre v2 microcodes David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 15:01   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-25 16:14 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] x86/speculation: Add basic IBPB (Indirect Branch Prediction Barrier) support David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 15:02   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 16:18     ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-26 21:36   ` [PATCH v5 7/7] " Tim Chen

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