From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, dave.hansen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:21:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1518517262.12890.43.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <27c85759-e662-d281-f8a0-0a80ca8ee18f@redhat.com>
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On Tue, 2018-02-13 at 10:58 +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > If spectre_v2_ibrs_all() is true then KVM should *never* actually pass
> > through or touch the real MSR.
>
> That would be nice but unfortunately it's not possible. :(
>
> The VM might actually not have IBRS_ALL, as usual the reason is
> migration compatibility. In that case, that no-op fiction would be very
> slow because the VM will actually do a lot of SPEC_CTRL writes.
If the VM *thinks* it's bashing on a real SPEC_CTRL register all the
time, and it's actually just trapping to a no-op, then it's actually
going to be a lot *faster* than the VM expects. We can live with that.
> So the right logic is:
>
> - if the VM has IBRS_ALL, pass through the MSR when it is zero and
> intercept writes when it is one (no writes should happen)
>
> - if the VM doesn't have IBRS_ALL, do as we are doing now, independent
> of what the host spectre_v2_ibrs_all() setting is.
We end up having to turn IBRS on again on vmexit then, taking care that
no conditional branch can go round it. So that becomes an
*unconditional* wrmsr or lfence in the vmexit path. We really don't
want that.
If we choose to tell a guest that it doesn't have IBRS_ALL, or if the
guest doesn't use IBRS_ALL and does it the old way, it's OK that it's
trapped. It's still faster than they expected.
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-12 15:27 [PATCH 1/2] x86/speculation: Correct Speculation Control microcode blacklist again David Woodhouse
2018-02-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-13 8:12 ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 8:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-13 8:15 ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 9:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-13 10:21 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2018-02-13 10:36 ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 10:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-13 10:53 ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 10:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-16 9:58 ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-16 10:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-16 10:21 ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-16 11:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-16 12:10 ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-19 23:37 ` Jon Masters
2018-02-19 23:42 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-19 23:53 ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-02-20 0:00 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-20 0:13 ` Alan Cox
2018-02-20 0:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-20 1:03 ` Alan Cox
2018-02-20 1:08 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-20 8:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 11:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-20 14:08 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-20 14:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-20 14:59 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-20 15:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-23 18:12 ` Is: RSB Alternative bit in IA32_ARCH_CAPABILITIES Was:Re: " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-02-23 18:18 ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-15 15:21 ` Pavel Machek
2018-02-13 8:57 ` [tip:x86/pti] x86/speculation: Correct Speculation Control microcode blacklist again tip-bot for David Woodhouse
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