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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Van De Ven, Arjan" <arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com>,
	"valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu" <valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu>
Cc: Jon Masters <jcm@jonmasters.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"torvalds@linux-foundation.org" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2018 16:09:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b39cfbb-a04f-46a8-87cb-3a52fc8e9700@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0575AF4FD06DD142AD198903C74E1CC87A6194AB@ORSMSX103.amr.corp.intel.com>

On 20/02/2018 15:59, Van De Ven, Arjan wrote:
> 
>>> I meant software wise. You're not going to live migrate from xen to
>>> kvm or backwards. or between very radically different versions of the
>>> kvm stack.
>>
>> Forwards migration to a radically newer version certainly happens.  So
>> when the source hypervisor was too old to tell the VM about IBRS_ALL,
>> for example, migration should work properly and the VM should perform
>> well on the destination hypervisor.
> 
> that makes sense, compatibility in this direction can be done
> and is useful as you move a fleet of servers forward
> 
>> Backwards migration to older hypervisors also happens sometimes, but in
>> general it creates more userspace than kernel issues.
> 
> that direction is obviously harder

>From KVM's point of view it's mostly a matter of having a complete ioctl
API right.  I'm not that much worried by it.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-20 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-12 15:27 [PATCH 1/2] x86/speculation: Correct Speculation Control microcode blacklist again David Woodhouse
2018-02-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  7:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-13  8:12     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  8:02   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-13  8:15     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  9:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-13 10:21         ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 10:36           ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 10:41             ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-13 10:53               ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 10:55                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-16  9:58               ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-16 10:08                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-16 10:21                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-16 11:04                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-16 12:10                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-19 23:37                         ` Jon Masters
2018-02-19 23:42                           ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-19 23:53                             ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-02-20  0:00                               ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-20  0:13                                 ` Alan Cox
2018-02-20  0:43                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-20  1:03                                     ` Alan Cox
2018-02-20  1:08                                       ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-20  8:52                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-20 11:43                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-20 14:08                                   ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-20 14:46                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-20 14:59                                       ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-20 15:09                                         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-02-23 18:12                                       ` Is: RSB Alternative bit in IA32_ARCH_CAPABILITIES Was:Re: " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-02-23 18:18                                         ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2018-02-15 15:21     ` Pavel Machek
2018-02-13  8:57 ` [tip:x86/pti] x86/speculation: Correct Speculation Control microcode blacklist again tip-bot for David Woodhouse

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