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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
	Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
	Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	"Drew Fustini" <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	"Anil Keshavamurthy" <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/29] x86/resctrl telemetry monitoring
Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 15:21:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d6606fd-5047-4286-ac69-0dfe4de1b844@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aDeCQ-v9OHzHauPi@agluck-desk3>

Hi Tony,

On 5/28/25 2:38 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> Hi Reinette,
> 
> I've begun drafting a new cover letter to explain telemetry.
> 
> Here's the introduction. Let me know if it helps cover the
> gaps and ambiguities that you pointed out.
> 
> -Tony
> 
> 
> RMID based telemetry events
> ---------------------------
> 
> Each CPU on a system keeps a local count of various events.
> 
> Every two milliseconds, or when the value of the RMID field in the
> IA32_PQR_ASSOC MSR is changed, the CPU transmits all the event counts
> together with the value of the RMID to a nearby OOBMSM (Out of band
> management services module) device. The CPU then resets all counters and
> begins counting events for the new RMID or time interval.
> 
> The OOBMSM device sums each event count with those received from other
> CPUs keeping a running total for each event for each RMID.
> 
> The operating system can read these counts to gather a picture of
> system-wide activity for each of the logged events per-RMID.
> 
> E.g. the operating system may assign RMID 5 to all the tasks running to
> perform a certain job. When it reads the core energy event counter for
> RMID 5 it will see the total energy consumed by CPU cores for all tasks
> in that job while running on any CPU. This is a much lower overhead
> mechanism to track events per job than the typical "perf" approach
> of reading counters on every context switch.
> 

Could you please elaborate the CPU vs core distinction?

If the example above is for a system with below topology (copied from 
Documentation/arch/x86/topology.rst):
                    
                                                                                
[package 0] -> [core 0] -> [thread 0] -> Linux CPU 0                    
			-> [thread 1] -> Linux CPU 1                    
	    -> [core 1] -> [thread 0] -> Linux CPU 2                    
			-> [thread 1] -> Linux CPU 3   

In the example, RMID 5 is assigned to tasks running "a certain job", for
convenience I will name it "jobA". Consider if the example is extended
with RMID 6 assigned to tasks running another job, "jobB".

If a jobA task is scheduled on CPU 0 and a jobB task is scheduled in CPU 1
then it may look like:
[package 0] -> [core 0] -> [thread 0] -> Linux CPU 0 #RMID 5
			-> [thread 1] -> Linux CPU 1 #RMID 6            
	    -> [core 1] -> [thread 0] -> Linux CPU 2                    
			-> [thread 1] -> Linux CPU 3   

The example above states:
	When it reads the core energy event counter for RMID 5 it will
	see the total energy consumed by CPU cores for all tasks in that
	job while running on any CPU.

With RMID 5 and RMID 6 both running on core 0, and "RMID 5 will see
the total energy consumed by CPU cores", does this mean that reading RMID 5
counter will return the energy consumed by core 0 while RMID 5 is assigned to
CPU 0? Since core 0 contains both CPU 0 and CPU 1, would reading RMID 5 thus return
data of both RMID 5 and RMID 6 (jobA and jobB)?
And vice versa, reading RMID 6 will also include energy consumed by tasks
running with RMID 5?

Reinette

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-28 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-21 22:50 Tony Luck
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 01/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Consolidate monitor event descriptions Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:25   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-04 16:33     ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-04 18:24       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 02/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Replace architecture event enabled checks Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 03/29] x86/resctrl: Remove 'rdt_mon_features' global variable Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:27   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 04/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Prepare for more monitor events Tony Luck
2025-05-23  9:00   ` Peter Newman
2025-05-23 15:57     ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-04  3:29   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-07  0:45   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-06-08 21:59     ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 05/29] x86/rectrl: Fake OOBMSM interface Tony Luck
2025-05-23 23:38   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-27 20:25     ` [PATCH v5 05/29 UPDATED] x86/resctrl: " Tony Luck
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 06/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Improve domain type checking Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:31   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-04 22:58     ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-04 23:40       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 07/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename some L3 specific functions Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:32   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 08/29] x86/resctrl: Move L3 initialization out of domain_add_cpu_mon() Tony Luck
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 09/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Refactor domain_remove_cpu_mon() ready for new domain types Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:32   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 10/29] x86/resctrl: Change generic domain functions to use struct rdt_domain_hdr Tony Luck
2025-05-22  0:01   ` Keshavamurthy, Anil S
2025-05-22  0:15     ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-04  3:37   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-07  0:52   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-06-08 22:02     ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 11/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Rename struct rdt_mon_domain and rdt_hw_mon_domain Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:40   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 12/29] fs/resctrl: Make event details accessible to functions when reading events Tony Luck
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 13/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Handle events that can be read from any CPU Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:42   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 14/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Support binary fixed point event counters Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-06 16:25     ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-06 16:56       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-10 15:16         ` Dave Martin
2025-06-10 15:54           ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-12 16:19             ` Dave Martin
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 15/29] fs/resctrl: Add an architectural hook called for each mount Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:49   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 16/29] x86/resctrl: Add and initialize rdt_resource for package scope core monitor Tony Luck
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 17/29] x86/resctrl: Discover hardware telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:53   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 18/29] x86/resctrl: Count valid telemetry aggregators per package Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:54   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 19/29] x86/resctrl: Complete telemetry event enumeration Tony Luck
2025-06-04  4:05   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 20/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Fill in details of Clearwater Forest events Tony Luck
2025-06-04  3:57   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-07  0:57   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-06-08 22:05     ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 21/29] x86/resctrl: x86/resctrl: Read core telemetry events Tony Luck
2025-06-04  4:02   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 22/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Handle domain creation/deletion for RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-06-04  4:06   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-07  0:54   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-06-08 22:03     ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 23/29] x86/resctrl: Enable RDT_RESOURCE_PERF_PKG Tony Luck
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 24/29] x86/resctrl: Add energy/perf choices to rdt boot option Tony Luck
2025-06-04  4:10   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-06 23:55   ` Fenghua Yu
2025-06-08 21:52     ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 25/29] x86/resctrl: Handle number of RMIDs supported by telemetry resources Tony Luck
2025-06-04  4:13   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 26/29] x86,fs/resctrl: Move RMID initialization to first mount Tony Luck
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 27/29] fs/resctrl: Add file system mechanism for architecture info file Tony Luck
2025-06-04  4:15   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-06  0:09     ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-06 16:26       ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-06 17:30         ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-06 21:14           ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-09 18:49             ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-09 22:39               ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-09 23:34                 ` Luck, Tony
2025-06-10  0:30                   ` Reinette Chatre
2025-06-10 18:48                     ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 28/29] x86/resctrl: Add info/PERF_PKG_MON/status file Tony Luck
2025-05-21 22:50 ` [PATCH v5 29/29] x86/resctrl: Update Documentation for package events Tony Luck
2025-05-28 17:21 ` [PATCH v5 00/29] x86/resctrl telemetry monitoring Reinette Chatre
2025-05-28 21:38   ` Luck, Tony
2025-05-28 22:21     ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2025-06-13 16:57 ` James Morse
2025-06-13 18:50   ` Luck, Tony

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