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From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: hps@tanstaafl.de
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [little bit OT] ip _IS_ _NOT_ ifconfig and route ! (was Re: [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission policy!))
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 03:50:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200101071150.DAA01700@pizda.ninka.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <939kiq$11s$1@forge.intermeta.de> (hps@tanstaafl.de)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0101062253440.18916-100000@shell.cyberus.ca>, <200101070543.VAA24689@pizda.ninka.net> <939kiq$11s$1@forge.intermeta.de>

   Date: 	Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:40:10 +0000 (UTC)
   From: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hps@tanstaafl.de>

   As long as "man ip" on my machines returns "ip(7) - ip - Linux IPv4
   protocol implementation", using "ip" exclusively instead of
   ifconfig and route is IMHO not an option for anyone else than
   bleeding edge hackers and linux gurus.

As long as "man printf" gives me that damn shell command manpage, I
will not use printf in my C applications. :-))))  Yes, I do
understand, "ip" needs some more documentation perhaps.

Nobody has suggested getting rid of ifconfig, rather we have suggested
to implement it in terms of "ip" because, as you even mention, "ip" is
powerful and can do everything ifconfig can do thus ifconfig can be
implemented as a wrapper on top of "ip".

Nobody has suggested to use "ip" exclusively, you will not invoke "ip"
with the suggestion I am making.  Ifconfig indirectly will, but you
won't even notice nor should you care.  They will be packaged
together, so even that won't be an issue.

Later,
David S. Miller
davem@redhat.com
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-07 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-08  8:12 [PATCH] hashed device lookup (New Benchmarks) Ben Greear
2001-01-06 21:33 ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission policy!) Ben Greear
2001-01-06 23:17   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-07  4:06     ` Ben Greear
2001-01-07 13:42       ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission Alan Cox
2001-01-07 15:33         ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-07 16:46           ` Alan Cox
2001-01-07 17:32             ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-07 19:02         ` Ben Greear
2001-01-07 18:06           ` Alan Cox
2001-01-07 18:53             ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-07 19:30             ` Ben Greear
2001-01-07 18:30               ` Alan Cox
2001-01-07 22:40             ` 5116
2001-01-08  2:19             ` David Ford
2001-01-09 20:25             ` Christopher E. Brown
2001-01-10  2:47               ` Ben Greear
2001-01-07 18:21           ` jamal
2001-01-07 19:00             ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-07 19:10               ` jamal
2001-01-07 19:24                 ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-08  0:21                   ` jamal
2001-01-07 19:37             ` Ben Greear
2001-01-07 18:53               ` jamal
2001-01-07  5:36     ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission policy!) David S. Miller
2001-01-07  3:29   ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-07  6:15     ` Ben Greear
2001-01-07 10:22     ` David Ford
2001-01-07 12:01       ` David S. Miller
2001-01-08  5:32         ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-08  6:12           ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-08  6:26             ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-08  6:57               ` David Ford
2001-01-08 13:08                 ` jamal
2001-01-09 13:28                   ` Blu3Viper
2001-01-08  6:13           ` Blu3Viper
2001-01-07 12:13       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-01-07 12:19         ` David Ford
2001-01-07 16:56     ` jamal
2001-01-07 17:37       ` Gleb Natapov
2001-01-07 18:02         ` routable interfaces WAS( " jamal
2001-01-07 19:21           ` routable interfaces WAS( Re: [PATCH] hashed device lookup (DoesNOT " Ben Greear
2001-01-07 18:29             ` jamal
2001-01-07 18:51               ` Gleb Natapov
2001-01-07 19:05                 ` jamal
2001-01-07 19:19               ` routable interfaces WAS( Re: [PATCH] hashed device lookup(DoesNOT " Sandy Harris
2001-01-07 20:42                 ` Ben Greear
2001-01-08  0:37                   ` jamal
2001-01-08  5:25                     ` routable interfaces WAS( Re: [PATCH] hashed device lookup(DoesNOTmeet " Ben Greear
2001-01-08 13:05                       ` jamal
2001-01-07  3:29   ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet " Andi Kleen
2001-01-07  4:00     ` jamal
2001-01-07  4:06       ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-07  5:43       ` David S. Miller
2001-01-07 11:40         ` [little bit OT] ip _IS_ _NOT_ ifconfig and route ! (was Re: [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission policy!)) Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-01-07 11:50         ` David S. Miller [this message]
2001-01-07 13:47         ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission Alan Cox
2001-01-07 16:12           ` jamal
2001-01-07 16:51             ` Alan Cox
2001-01-07 15:56         ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission policy!) jamal
2001-01-07 16:30           ` Gleb Natapov
2001-01-07 16:36             ` jamal
2001-01-07 19:54           ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumissionpolicy!) Ben Greear
2001-01-07  6:24       ` Ben Greear
2001-01-07  5:29         ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-07  6:22     ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission policy!) Ben Greear
2001-01-07  5:27       ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-07  8:11         ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission policy!) (Benchmarks) Ben Greear
2001-01-07  7:15           ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-08  7:00           ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (New Benchmarks) David S. Miller
2001-01-08 16:26             ` Ben Greear
2001-01-08 16:50               ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-09 16:27                 ` Ben Greear
2001-01-07 13:50       ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission Alan Cox
2001-01-07 16:44         ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-01-07 19:09         ` Ben Greear
2001-01-07  5:40   ` [PATCH] hashed device lookup (Does NOT meet Linus' sumission policy!) David S. Miller

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