From: Paul Mundt <lethal@ChaoticDreams.ORG>
To: Marius Nita <marius@pdx.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 16:57:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010701165734.A13184@ChaoticDreams.ORG> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B3F5F5C.40907@lycosmail.com> <20010701130151.A10989@ChaoticDreams.ORG> <20010701153250.A7939@pdx.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20010701153250.A7939@pdx.edu>; from marius@pdx.edu on Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 03:32:51PM -0700
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 03:32:51PM -0700, Marius Nita wrote:
> _I_ think it's childish to claim the above. You _may_ have a choice, yes, but
> is that choice equal or fair? Microsoft has infected both the user area as
> much as the business/work area. If you want to purchase a PC because your
> computer just fried and you want to finish a paper or something, but you
> _want_ to use KOffice on Linux, and you don't care for Windows/Word
> whatsoever, what are the chances that if you run down to the computer store
> your "choices" will be Windows/Word, _period_! You'll then have to make sure
> that none of the hardware in it is Software driven-like winmodems-and that
> it's supported by Linux (or whatever OS you prefer). Almost all computers out
> there (from well-known compianies) ship with winmodems. How is that a choice?
> You have a choice to waste $70 on a harware modem, when someone who uses
> Windows doesn't?
>
You have lots of choices. You're simply opting to take the quick and easy way
out. Your complaint about workstations is unjustified, if you insist on buying
pre-built workstations, there are many companies that you can buy linux
workstations from (strange, I thought VA did something like that for awhile
until they backed out of the hardware business, guess I was mistaken though,
as there aren't any options).
As for modems, this isn't anything but an excuse either. Broadband is very much
commonplace these days.. being force into dialup is less and less of a problem
these days. However, paying 70$ for a peice of trash hardware modem is no one's
fault but your own, and your inability to look around.
On top of that, your entire argument is broken. If you fry your machine, you
have a pretty good chance of being able to just repair it instead of having to
replace it with an entire new machine. Or if you can't, there's always the ever
so difficult scenario of removing the damned modem from the machine and moving
it over to a different one (provided you had a software modem in the alleged
new one).
> Then, when it comes to work, what are you choices there? You choose not to
> Work for one of the Windows-based companies out there, and spend more time
> looking for a different job, but at the same time you choose not to pay your
> rent, feed your kids, etc. All I'm asking for is a _fair_ choice! Even if
> one's lucky enough to get their preffered non-MS job, they will have to work
> for some MS company while they scout around for it. So yes, we have a choice,
> but going the MS way is the muuuuch easier route. And this is all owed to the
> fact that MS is driving special campaigns instilling fear in the hearts of
> non-MS companies, offering "great deals on software packages", "solving your
> problems the right way", making you feel that if you don't go MS you're
> screwed, etc. You never see SUN, do that, do you?
>
In that case, you've made your choice, which is to work for a MS using company.
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to use MS products, you do
so of your own free will. Coming up with excuses to try and justify using
something you allege to hate so much is just pathetic.
Also, say for some reason you are "forced" into working temporarily for such
a company to pay the bills.. nothing is stopping you from looking for alternate
means of employment.
Seems to me you just want the quick and easy way out, and refuse to admit the
possibility that there are other options. Just because you haven't taken the
time to look at them, doesn't mean they don't exist.
Regards,
--
Paul Mundt <lethal@chaoticdreams.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-01 23:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-07-01 17:35 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:29 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 0:56 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:59 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30 ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57 ` Tony Hoyle
[not found] ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 0:06 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:31 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32 ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02 0:03 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:49 ` Jim Roland
[not found] ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 9:18 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57 ` Paul Mundt [this message]
2001-07-02 0:39 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 1:00 ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02 1:06 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26 ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:11 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02 0:36 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:45 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 5:40 ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02 9:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 2:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-07-02 3:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02 5:37 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02 0:26 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 13:53 ` Android
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-02 15:09 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-02 17:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
[not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02 0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02 2:56 ` Michael Rothwell
[not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:52 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02 0:13 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-01 1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02 ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
[not found] ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 1:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 1:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02 1:21 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 1:48 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02 0:20 ` Jim Roland
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