From: Paul Mundt <lethal@ChaoticDreams.ORG>
To: Ben Ford <ben@kalifornia.com>
Cc: Adam Schrotenboer <ajschrotenboer@lycosmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 17:11:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010701171101.A13223@ChaoticDreams.ORG> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B3F5F5C.40907@lycosmail.com> <20010701130151.A10989@ChaoticDreams.ORG> <3B3FB754.8040305@kalifornia.com>
In-Reply-To: <3B3FB754.8040305@kalifornia.com>; from ben@kalifornia.com on Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0700
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0700, Ben Ford wrote:
> Name a single tech company anywhere in the world that doesn't have to
> deal with microsoftisms.
>
This depends on your definition of dealing with MSisms. If you mean having a
copy of an MS product physically present at a business location, that's
pretty much unavoidable.
If you mean working at a place where you yourself don't have to deal with it,
it all depends what line of work you're in. If you're some form of management
person, you might choose to work with Word because everyone else does, but
that goes back to it being your decision.
I can think of a lot of companies, such as WindRiver, QSSL, etc. where there
may be some level of involvement, but not everyone working in the company is
forced into things.
> It makes perfect sense to me. Take my family as an example. My wife
> used Windows because she didn't know anything else existed. She crashed
> and rebooted quite frequently and never knew there was an alternative.
> Then she met me and was rather astounded that I hadn't rebooted my
> machine in months. Now she hates Microsoft because she realizes what
> bullshit she went through.
>
What a petty thing to hate a corporation over. If you're using a company's
product of your own free will, any issues that might arise out of using
the product is something you accepted when you purchased the product.
Not knowing ones options is also not the fault of MS. If you don't do your
research before getting into something, and you get screwed as a result, it's
your own fault for not looking into things before making a decision.
> Well, when you realize that Bill Gates (not MS, just Bill Gates
> personally) has enough money to give every person in the world $10 out
> of his pocket, then you see this argument in a different light.
>
What does that have to do with anything? Someone makes some many, and they're
suddenly the cause of world hunger because they could donate all their money
but don't? This is also a moronic statement, as I seem to recall Gates
starting up a foundation for such things, and donating money to charity.
While I may not like alot of the things that MS does, or care for how Gates
does business, I'm still not going to try and blame the worlds problems on
him simply because he does some things I don't like.
Regards,
--
Paul Mundt <lethal@chaoticdreams.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-02 0:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-07-01 17:35 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:29 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 0:56 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:59 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30 ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57 ` Tony Hoyle
[not found] ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 0:06 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:31 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32 ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02 0:03 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:49 ` Jim Roland
[not found] ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 9:18 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02 0:39 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 1:00 ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02 1:06 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26 ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:11 ` Paul Mundt [this message]
2001-07-02 0:36 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:45 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 5:40 ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02 9:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 2:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-07-02 3:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02 5:37 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02 0:26 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 13:53 ` Android
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-02 15:09 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-02 17:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
[not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02 0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02 2:56 ` Michael Rothwell
[not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:52 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02 0:13 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-01 1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02 ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
[not found] ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 1:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 1:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02 1:21 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 1:48 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02 0:20 ` Jim Roland
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