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From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@vger.timpanogas.org>
To: Ben Ford <ben@kalifornia.com>
Cc: Paul Mundt <lethal@ChaoticDreams.ORG>,
	Adam Schrotenboer <ajschrotenboer@lycosmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:11:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010701191121.C12476@vger.timpanogas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B3F5F5C.40907@lycosmail.com> <20010701130151.A10989@ChaoticDreams.ORG> <3B3FB754.8040305@kalifornia.com>
In-Reply-To: <3B3FB754.8040305@kalifornia.com>; from ben@kalifornia.com on Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0700

On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0700, Ben Ford wrote:

Microsoft is like a mountain with their installed base.  Like it 
or not, no matter how loud the wind howls, the mountain cannot bow
to it.

:-)

Jeff



> Paul Mundt wrote:
> 
> >On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 01:35:24PM -0400, Adam Schrotenboer wrote:
> >
> >>So as a user you are free to not use M$ products.
> >>What if you are IT. Then you do not have a choice.
> >>
> >You always have a choice, work elsewhere. If you're in a position where you're
> >working with MS products, you were the one who made the decision to do so.
> >MS is not at fault, claiming so is childish.
> >
> 
> Name a single tech company anywhere in the world that doesn't have to 
> deal with microsoftisms.
> 
> [ . . . ]
> 
> >>When Win95 came out, I finally got to hate M$. Then I discovered Linux
> >>and now I have a great dislike for M$ and their products.
> >>
> >This makes absolutely no sense. You didn't have a problem with MS originally,
> >but as soon as Win95 came out you instantly hated them? A few issues with an
> >OS are hardly valid grounds for "hating" a company.
> >
> >Also, I don't see how once you discovered Linux your hatred for MS grew. This
> >also makes very little sense. If you were sitting there using MS products of
> >
> It makes perfect sense to me.  Take my family as an example.  My wife 
> used Windows because she didn't know anything else existed.  She crashed 
> and rebooted quite frequently and never knew there was an alternative. 
>  Then she met me and was rather astounded that I hadn't rebooted my 
> machine in months.  Now she hates Microsoft because she realizes what 
> bullshit she went through.
> 
> 
> [ . . . ]
> 
> >Oh please, next you'll be blaming world hunger on MS because third world
> >countries can't afford licenses of win2k.
> >
> 
> Well, when you realize that Bill Gates (not MS, just Bill Gates 
> personally) has enough money to give every person in the world $10 out 
> of his pocket, then you see this argument in a different light.
> 
> (Disclaimer:  This statistic was from 2 or 3 years ago.  I don't know 
> what the figures are now.)
> 
> -- 
> :    __o
> :   -\<,
> :   0/ 0
> -----------
> 
> 
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-07-02  1:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-01 17:35 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25   ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:29     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  0:56       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:59         ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30   ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57   ` Tony Hoyle
     [not found]     ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  0:06       ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02  0:31     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32   ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27     ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02  0:03       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:49         ` Jim Roland
     [not found]           ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02  9:18             ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:39     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  1:00     ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02  1:06       ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26       ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50   ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:11     ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02  0:36       ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  0:45       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  5:40         ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02  9:19           ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02  2:11     ` Jeff V. Merkey [this message]
2001-07-02  3:06       ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02  5:37       ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02  0:26 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 13:53 ` Android
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-02 15:09 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-02 17:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56     ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36       ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35     ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
     [not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02  0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02  2:56   ` Michael Rothwell
     [not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11   ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24     ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:52     ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02  0:13   ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-01  1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02   ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06     ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
     [not found]       ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03         ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24           ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53             ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03           ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14             ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53               ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02  1:09                 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02  1:19                   ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37                     ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02  1:21                   ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02  1:48                   ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01                   ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59                 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02  0:20             ` Jim Roland

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