From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@vger.timpanogas.org>
To: Ben Ford <ben@kalifornia.com>
Cc: Paul Mundt <lethal@ChaoticDreams.ORG>,
Adam Schrotenboer <ajschrotenboer@lycosmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:11:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010701191121.C12476@vger.timpanogas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3B3F5F5C.40907@lycosmail.com> <20010701130151.A10989@ChaoticDreams.ORG> <3B3FB754.8040305@kalifornia.com>
In-Reply-To: <3B3FB754.8040305@kalifornia.com>; from ben@kalifornia.com on Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0700
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 04:50:44PM -0700, Ben Ford wrote:
Microsoft is like a mountain with their installed base. Like it
or not, no matter how loud the wind howls, the mountain cannot bow
to it.
:-)
Jeff
> Paul Mundt wrote:
>
> >On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 01:35:24PM -0400, Adam Schrotenboer wrote:
> >
> >>So as a user you are free to not use M$ products.
> >>What if you are IT. Then you do not have a choice.
> >>
> >You always have a choice, work elsewhere. If you're in a position where you're
> >working with MS products, you were the one who made the decision to do so.
> >MS is not at fault, claiming so is childish.
> >
>
> Name a single tech company anywhere in the world that doesn't have to
> deal with microsoftisms.
>
> [ . . . ]
>
> >>When Win95 came out, I finally got to hate M$. Then I discovered Linux
> >>and now I have a great dislike for M$ and their products.
> >>
> >This makes absolutely no sense. You didn't have a problem with MS originally,
> >but as soon as Win95 came out you instantly hated them? A few issues with an
> >OS are hardly valid grounds for "hating" a company.
> >
> >Also, I don't see how once you discovered Linux your hatred for MS grew. This
> >also makes very little sense. If you were sitting there using MS products of
> >
> It makes perfect sense to me. Take my family as an example. My wife
> used Windows because she didn't know anything else existed. She crashed
> and rebooted quite frequently and never knew there was an alternative.
> Then she met me and was rather astounded that I hadn't rebooted my
> machine in months. Now she hates Microsoft because she realizes what
> bullshit she went through.
>
>
> [ . . . ]
>
> >Oh please, next you'll be blaming world hunger on MS because third world
> >countries can't afford licenses of win2k.
> >
>
> Well, when you realize that Bill Gates (not MS, just Bill Gates
> personally) has enough money to give every person in the world $10 out
> of his pocket, then you see this argument in a different light.
>
> (Disclaimer: This statistic was from 2 or 3 years ago. I don't know
> what the figures are now.)
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-02 1:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-07-01 17:35 Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:01 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-01 20:25 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:29 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 0:56 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:59 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 20:30 ` Mike Harrold
2001-07-01 21:57 ` Tony Hoyle
[not found] ` <3B3FACEC.897D910A@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 0:06 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-02 0:31 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 22:32 ` Marius Nita
2001-07-01 23:27 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-02 0:03 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:49 ` Jim Roland
[not found] ` <3B3FF9D7.9582B05B@mirai.cx>
2001-07-02 9:18 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 23:57 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02 0:39 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 1:00 ` Justin Guyett
2001-07-02 1:06 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 10:26 ` Luigi Genoni
2001-07-01 23:50 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:11 ` Paul Mundt
2001-07-02 0:36 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 0:45 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 5:40 ` Graham Murray
2001-07-02 9:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 2:11 ` Jeff V. Merkey [this message]
2001-07-02 3:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-02 5:37 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-07-02 0:26 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 13:53 ` Android
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-02 15:09 Jesse Pollard
2001-07-02 17:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 17:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-02 17:56 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-02 18:36 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:35 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 18:31 ` Jim Roland
[not found] <fa.eu2vnbv.278lg4@ifi.uio.no>
2001-07-02 0:33 ` Ted Unangst
2001-07-02 2:56 ` Michael Rothwell
[not found] <20010701131254.A9116@tabris.domedata.com>
2001-07-01 17:41 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 18:11 ` Hua Zhong
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Adam Schrotenboer
2001-07-01 20:52 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-02 0:13 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-01 1:36 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 10:12 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-01 16:02 ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-01 16:06 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
[not found] ` <3B3F707C.9BF8BCF7@mirai.cx>
2001-07-01 19:03 ` Kurt Maxwell Weber
2001-07-01 19:24 ` Lew Wolfgang
2001-07-01 20:53 ` David Schwartz
2001-07-01 20:03 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 20:14 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-07-01 23:53 ` Ben Ford
2001-07-02 1:09 ` William T Wilson
2001-07-02 1:19 ` Jim Roland
2001-07-02 19:37 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-07-02 1:21 ` Dan Hollis
2001-07-02 1:48 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-07-06 19:01 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 18:59 ` Tracy R Reed
2001-07-06 19:34 ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-07-02 0:20 ` Jim Roland
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