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From: Craig Dickson <crdic@yahoo.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.20pre10
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:08:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011022180834.A20938@crdic.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011022163536.B19715@crdic.ath.cx> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110230243470.31211-100000@Expansa.sns.it>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110230243470.31211-100000@Expansa.sns.it>

Luigi Genoni wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Craig Dickson wrote:
> 
> > There have been a lot of messages from a number of different people
> > about this "censored changelogs" issue. Rather than reply to various
> > points separately, I just want to sum up my views in one message.
> >
> > I simply don't believe that Alan Cox is at any risk of prosecution, and
> > what's more, I don't believe that he believes it. He's just making a
> > dramatic political statement that will have no effect on the law, will
> > never even be noticed by American legislators, and serves only to annoy
> > US-based Linux users.
> your own opinion

If you read carefully, I said twice "I don't believe", which pretty
clearly indicates that I am expressing my own opinion. So I'm not at
all sure what you think you're contributing by repeating that fact.

> Ans so, if a company makes a vulnerable product, I am not free
> to publish the bug?
> 
> ahh, simply nonsense.

Yes, it is nonsense. Where did you come up with it? Nothing I wrote
suggested any such thing.

What I was pointing out was that the RIAA and Adobe at least had some
reason to be opposed to what Felten and Sklyarov were doing. It is
unfortunate that the DMCA gave them the appearance of legal backing for
their revoltingly unethical attempts to prevent public discussion of the
technical demerits of their technology, but the real point here is that
there was a plaintiff to initiate DMCA prosecution (in Sklyarov's case)
or to threaten Felten with a civil action. But who is going to do the
same to Alan Cox for fixing kernel bugs? Who could conceivably have a
cause for action?

I hope this clarifies my point for you.

Craig

  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-23  1:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-22 23:35 Craig Dickson
2001-10-23  0:53 ` Luigi Genoni
2001-10-23  1:08   ` Craig Dickson [this message]
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2001-10-26 20:26 Fabian Svara
2001-10-26 18:49 ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-23 12:31 Jesse Pollard
2001-10-23  3:45 Thomas Hood
2001-10-23  2:48 Patrick Chase
2001-10-22 23:40 Carsten Kuckuk
2001-10-22 23:06 ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 23:30 Thomas Hood
2001-10-22 23:45 ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 22:27 Wayne.Brown
2001-10-22 23:56 ` David Weinehall
2001-10-23  0:40   ` Chris Gomez
2001-10-23 16:21 ` Jonathan Amery
2001-10-22 22:20 Leif Sawyer
     [not found] <fa.mf0j8bv.1e5o8jq@ifi.uio.no>
2001-10-22 22:15 ` Sam Varshavchik
2001-10-22 22:12 Wayne.Brown
2001-10-22 22:26 ` Kilobug
2001-10-22 21:07 Wayne.Brown
2001-10-22 20:57 Craig Dickson
2001-10-22 21:07 ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 21:21   ` Tom Sightler
2001-10-22 21:23   ` Craig Dickson
2001-10-22 21:32     ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 22:13       ` Craig Dickson
2001-10-22 22:22         ` Jan Niehusmann
2001-10-22 23:25         ` Jeff Golds
2001-10-22 23:27         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-23 16:27         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2001-10-23  1:59       ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-10-23  4:36         ` CaT
2001-10-23 10:50         ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-23 17:36         ` Paul Jakma
2001-10-23 18:25         ` David S. Miller
2001-10-22 21:37   ` Bob Glamm
2001-10-22 22:02     ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 22:17       ` Pedro Corte-Real
2001-10-22 23:02         ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 21:27 ` ogd116
2001-10-22 21:37   ` Craig Dickson
2001-10-22 21:43     ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 21:58       ` Tony Hoyle
2001-10-22 22:04         ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 21:48     ` ognen
2001-10-22 20:27 PinkFreud
2001-10-22 20:30 ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 20:42   ` PinkFreud
2001-10-22 22:57     ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-22 23:21       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-22 21:17   ` D. Stimits
2001-10-23  0:11     ` Luigi Genoni
2001-10-23 10:00       ` Marco Colombo
2001-10-22 20:22 Torrey Hoffman
2001-10-22 20:37 ` Tommy Reynolds
2001-10-22 19:58 Rogier Wolff
2001-10-22 20:28 ` Steve Brueggeman
2001-10-22 18:59 Wayne.Brown
2001-10-22 20:01 ` bill davidsen
2001-10-22 18:27 Wayne.Brown
2001-10-22 18:38 ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-22 18:40 ` Alexander Viro
2001-10-22 19:23   ` Paul Fulghum
2001-10-22 19:14 ` Tudor Bosman
2001-10-22 19:42   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-22 19:55   ` Tom Sightler
2001-10-22 20:42     ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 20:45       ` Dan Hollis
2001-10-22 21:12         ` Tom Sightler
2001-10-22 21:35           ` Dan Hollis
2001-10-22 22:49           ` David Weinehall
2001-10-22 23:29             ` Tom Sightler
2001-10-22 23:49               ` D. Stimits
2001-10-23  1:32                 ` Tom Sightler
2001-10-22 21:04       ` Tom Sightler
2001-10-22 20:28   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 19:00   ` Riley Williams
2001-10-22 23:19 ` Luigi Genoni
2001-10-22 18:13 Per Jessen
2001-10-24 13:27 ` Horst von Brand
2001-10-22 17:51 Wayne.Brown
2001-10-22 18:06 ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 21:52   ` Kilobug
2001-10-23  6:29   ` Yoann Vandoorselaere
2001-10-22 18:41 ` Joel Jaeggli
2001-10-22 19:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2001-10-22 17:21 Wayne.Brown
2001-10-22 17:35 ` George Garvey
2001-10-22 17:46 ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-22 17:57   ` Rob Turk
2001-10-22 19:45   ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 20:17   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 17:51 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-22 15:11 Wayne.Brown
2001-10-22 15:42 ` Tom Sightler
2001-10-22 16:03 ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 10:21 Alan Cox
2001-10-22 10:37 ` bert hubert
2001-10-22 11:30   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 11:35     ` bert hubert
2001-10-22 11:55       ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 12:06         ` Matthias Andree
2001-10-22 12:29           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 13:24             ` Luigi Genoni
2001-10-22 19:27             ` brian
2001-10-22 19:39               ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 20:04               ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-10-22 20:44                 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 20:45                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2001-10-23  5:56                   ` Paul P Komkoff Jr
2001-10-27 16:18                 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-22 20:34               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 22:45                 ` Steven Walter
2001-10-22 23:07                   ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-22 23:24                     ` Steven Walter
2001-10-24  5:02                     ` Paul G. Allen
2001-10-23  3:55                   ` Nicholas Dronen
2001-10-22 23:39                 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-22 23:47                   ` Steven Walter
2001-10-23  1:01                     ` Jeff Golds
2001-10-23  1:35                       ` Steven Walter
2001-10-22 23:58                   ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-23  1:40                     ` Steven Walter
2001-10-22 23:04             ` David Ford
2001-10-22 23:15               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 23:32                 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-22 23:38               ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 23:57             ` Sam Vilain
2001-10-22 12:08         ` bert hubert
2001-10-22 12:30           ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 12:25             ` bert hubert
2001-10-22 12:37               ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 13:33               ` Horst von Brand
2001-10-22 18:21                 ` Dan Hollis
2001-10-22 19:29                 ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 18:14               ` Dan Hollis
2001-10-22 19:24               ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 13:07             ` Roger Gammans
2001-10-22 13:30               ` bert hubert
2001-10-22 16:11               ` David Lang
2001-10-22 14:11             ` Danny ter Haar
2001-10-22 16:20             ` bill davidsen
2001-10-22 16:34               ` Rik van Riel
2001-10-22 16:52                 ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-22 19:39                   ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 19:49                     ` Doug McNaught
2001-10-22 20:51                       ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 23:07                   ` Luigi Genoni
2001-10-22 23:30                     ` D. Stimits
2001-10-23  0:41                       ` Luigi Genoni
2001-10-23  0:42                     ` Michael Rothwell
2001-10-22 19:56                 ` Gregory Ade
2001-10-22 20:59                 ` Jussi Laako
2001-10-22 21:56                 ` Bill Davidsen
2001-10-22 22:10                   ` Dan Hollis
2001-10-22 22:16                     ` Tony Hoyle
2001-10-23 13:21                       ` Nick LeRoy
2001-10-22 16:49               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 17:16                 ` Greg Hennessy
2001-10-22 19:35               ` D. Stimits
2001-10-22 16:30             ` Andreas D. Landmark
2001-10-22 19:43             ` Gregory Ade
2001-10-22 20:14               ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 21:30                 ` Gerhard Mack
2001-10-24  8:18                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-24 17:45         ` Riley Williams
2001-10-22 19:28     ` Gavin Baker
2001-10-22 10:40 ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-10-22 17:31   ` Dominik Kubla
2001-10-27 15:57     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-22 10:41 ` Andreas Haumer
2001-10-22 10:52   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 22:41 ` Rik van Riel
2001-09-11 23:06 Alan Cox
2001-09-12  8:01 ` Roberto Nibali
2001-09-12  8:08 ` David Woodhouse
2001-09-12  8:36   ` Kai Germaschewski
2001-09-12  8:38     ` David Woodhouse
2001-09-12  8:21 ` Andreas Haumer
2001-09-17  6:08 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-09-17 12:24   ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 15:04 ` Nicolas Turro

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