From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Jonathan Lundell <jlundell@pobox.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] New Driver Model for 2.5
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:22:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011023202258.5598@smtp.wanadoo.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p05100303b7fb36bf20f5@[207.213.214.37]>
In-Reply-To: <p05100303b7fb36bf20f5@[207.213.214.37]>
>"Stop accepting new requests" is nontrivial as well, in the general
>case. New requests that can't be discarded need to be queued
>somewhere. Whose responsibility is that? Ideally at some point where
>a queue already exists, possibly in the requester.
Some driver already handle queues. In the case of network driver, just
stop your network queue and stop accepting incoming packets. If your
driver is too simple to have queues, a simple semaphore on entry points
can often be enough. You shouldn't deadlock as you are not supposed to
re-enter a sleeping driver in step 2.
The above, is ensured by the tree layout which does the dependency
ordering. You might have slightly off-tree dependencies, like I have
in a couple of case on macs. But I figured that all of them could be
handled as special case in some parent nodes without beeing that
dirty (in most case, those are Apple specific ASICs containing devices
with inter-deps, and the workaround is to move some devices sleep code
to the node of the ASIC itself).
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-23 20:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-19 23:33 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-20 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-20 9:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-21 17:09 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23 0:19 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23 0:31 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 0:29 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-23 7:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 15:10 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-23 15:49 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-23 20:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2001-10-23 20:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 0:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 9:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 10:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 10:54 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 13:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 13:25 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:36 ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-10-24 16:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:48 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 16:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 16:46 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-24 16:54 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-24 16:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 17:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-24 22:41 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 22:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 7:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:22 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 14:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 8:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 8:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 12:20 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:47 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-24 22:50 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 4:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 12:42 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 21:52 ` Xavier Bestel
2001-10-25 23:53 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 23:53 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-26 11:35 ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-26 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-25 8:27 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 10:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:02 ` Helge Hafting
2001-10-25 14:20 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-10-25 14:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 14:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-25 15:22 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-25 15:44 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-25 16:26 ` David Lang
2001-10-25 21:59 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-25 21:32 ` Rob Turk
2001-10-24 17:01 ` Mike Anderson
2001-10-25 9:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25 9:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-25 9:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-25 10:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-25 10:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:18 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-24 15:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-24 15:59 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-24 15:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-10-23 9:44 ` Pavel Machek
2001-10-23 11:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 11:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-23 10:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-24 17:56 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-24 18:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 21:43 Grover, Andrew
2001-10-19 17:01 Kevin Easton
2001-10-19 18:40 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-17 23:52 Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 6:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 12:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 16:19 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:38 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-18 22:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 17:09 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-18 22:10 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19 18:26 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-19 19:02 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 19:21 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 20:07 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 20:24 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-19 22:25 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-20 13:47 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-20 1:41 ` john slee
2001-10-20 13:52 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-22 11:02 ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-27 11:01 ` Kai Henningsen
2001-10-19 7:57 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-10-19 8:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19 8:31 ` Keith Owens
2001-10-19 8:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19 18:50 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-19 15:21 ` Taral
2001-10-19 23:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-19 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 15:17 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 16:08 ` Taral
2001-10-18 16:52 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:38 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 17:41 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 18:28 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 19:49 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 20:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 21:32 ` John Alvord
2001-10-18 22:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 22:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-18 22:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:30 ` Patrick Mochel
2001-10-18 23:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2001-10-18 23:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-10-19 17:12 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-10-18 17:05 ` Jonathan Corbet
2001-10-18 17:33 ` Patrick Mochel
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