From: "Jeff V. Merkey" <jmerkey@vger.timpanogas.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
ehrhardt@mathematik.uni-ulm.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VM-related Oops: 2.4.15pre1
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:22:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011118202252.A8708@vger.timpanogas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200111181710.fAIHAlCF011794@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111181803040.7482-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111181803040.7482-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 06:04:16PM -0800
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 06:04:16PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Horst von Brand wrote:
> > Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> said:
> > > And nope, not really. It does use plain stores to page->flags, and I agree
> > > that it is ugly, but if the page was locked before calling it, all the
> > > stores will be with the PG_lock bit set - and even plain stores _are_
> > > documented to be atomic on x86 (and on all other reasonable architectures
> > > too).
> >
> > Even unaligned stores?
>
> Actually, even unaligned stores (which page->flags is NOT) are atomic,
> even if Intel strongly discourages them (for performance reasons if no
> others) and there tends to be documentation that doesn't guarantee it.
>
> Linus
>
This is true. They Generate what's called a "split lock" bus transaction
where the bus will hold LOCK# low across the several clock cycles to
complete the write. They are **VERY** heavy, BTW, and really cause
nasty performance hits.
Jeff
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-11-19 2:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-11-16 22:23 Simon Kirby
2001-11-17 22:53 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2001-11-18 3:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-18 4:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-18 6:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-18 6:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-18 7:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-18 12:05 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-19 2:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 18:40 ` kuznet
2001-11-19 10:15 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-19 16:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-19 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 23:52 ` John Alvord
2001-11-21 2:31 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <200111180731.fAI7VFa01371@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-11-18 7:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-18 17:10 ` Horst von Brand
2001-11-19 2:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 3:22 ` Jeff V. Merkey [this message]
2001-11-19 8:44 ` David Woodhouse
2001-11-19 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 17:56 ` Simon Kirby
2001-11-19 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 18:31 ` Simon Kirby
2001-11-19 20:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-19 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 21:49 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 22:59 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-20 0:06 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-20 0:27 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 23:27 ` Simon Kirby
2001-11-19 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 23:52 ` Simon Kirby
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