From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VM-related Oops: 2.4.15pre1
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:31:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011121023137.D37@toy.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E165QhG-00035D-00@the-village.bc.nu> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111181756260.7482-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111181756260.7482-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>; from torvalds@transmeta.com on Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 06:02:17PM -0800
Hi!
> > Why is it a compiler bug. You've not declared that variable to be volatile
> > therefore it is only touched in the code flow the compiler is analysing.
>
> Even without volatile, the compiler is very arguably buggy if it writes
> values to your variables that were never supposed to be there.
>
> Take this, for example:
>
> sig_atomic_t value = 1;
>
> int fn()
> {
> value = 2;
> }
>
> And a signal comes in. Even without the volatile, if gcc has written
> _anything_ else than 1 or 2 into the variable, gcc is BROKEN.
imagine
typedef volatile int sig_atomic_t;
> There's no point being a language lawyer and saying that gcc "could write
> anything to value before it writes the final 2". Tha's not true. A compile
> rthat does that is
>
> (a) buggy as hell from a POSIX standpoint
> (b) even apart from POSIX, from a Q-of-I standpoint complete and utter
> crap.
Imagine this:
if (likely(foo))
c = 1
else c = 2
I could see it optimized as
c = 1
if (unlikely(foo))
c = 2
Given enough register pressure.... I've seen similar optimalizations proposed
in "advanced compilers" book.
Pavel
PS: but wrapping access to current->flags in macro is probably okay for now.
I just wanted to show that writing unwanted value is not as broken as you
think.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-11-22 10:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-11-16 22:23 Simon Kirby
2001-11-17 22:53 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2001-11-18 3:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-18 4:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-18 6:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-18 6:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-18 7:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-18 12:05 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-19 2:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 18:40 ` kuznet
2001-11-19 10:15 ` Alan Cox
2001-11-19 16:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 18:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-11-19 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 23:52 ` John Alvord
2001-11-21 2:31 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
[not found] ` <200111180731.fAI7VFa01371@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-11-18 7:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-11-18 17:10 ` Horst von Brand
2001-11-19 2:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 3:22 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2001-11-19 8:44 ` David Woodhouse
2001-11-19 16:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 17:56 ` Simon Kirby
2001-11-19 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 18:31 ` Simon Kirby
2001-11-19 20:01 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-11-19 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 21:49 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 22:59 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 23:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-20 0:06 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-20 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-20 0:27 ` Rik van Riel
2001-11-19 23:27 ` Simon Kirby
2001-11-19 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-11-19 23:52 ` Simon Kirby
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