From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Rob Landley <landley@trommello.org>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>,
Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:51:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020211115104.A37@toy.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202081824070.25114-100000@segfault.osdlab.org> <20020208203931.X15496@lynx.turbolabs.com> <20020209092607.UHF12059.femail26.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there>
In-Reply-To: <20020209092607.UHF12059.femail26.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there>; from landley@trommello.org on Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:27:00AM -0500
Hi!
> > I don't see why everyone who is using BK is expecting Linus to do a pull.
> > In the non-BK case, wasn't it always a "push" model, and Linus would not
> > "pull" from URLs and such?
>
> I'm all for it. I think it's a good thing.
>
> In the absence of significant latency issues, pull scales better than push.
> It always has. Push is better in low bandwidth situations with lots of idle
> capacity, but it breaks down when the system approaches saturation.
>
> Pull data is naturally supplied when you're ready for it (assuming no
> significant latency to access it). Push either scrolls by unread or piles up
> in your inbox and gets buried until it goes stale. Web pages work on a pull
> model, "push" was an internet fad a few years ago that failed for a reason.
> When push models hit saturation it breaks down and you wind up with the old
> "I love lucy" episode with the chocolate factory. Back in the days where
What's "i love lucy" episode?
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-11 18:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-09 2:25 [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4 Patrick Mochel
2002-02-09 3:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 4:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-09 7:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 7:41 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-10 2:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-10 3:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-10 7:47 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-10 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-11 18:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 5:12 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-09 9:36 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-09 9:57 ` Momchil Velikov
2002-02-09 10:01 ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-09 18:09 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-09 15:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-10 4:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-09 10:14 ` David Lang
2002-02-09 15:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 16:50 ` Tom Rini
2002-02-09 17:05 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 21:01 ` David Lang
2002-02-09 21:41 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 23:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 23:45 ` Tom Rini
2002-02-10 0:42 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 23:52 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-10 4:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-10 18:02 ` Tom Rini
2002-02-10 5:25 ` William Stearns
2002-02-11 17:30 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-13 11:59 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-09 9:27 ` pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4) Rob Landley
2002-02-09 10:08 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 18:12 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-09 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-09 20:12 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-09 20:26 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 20:51 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-09 23:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-09 23:49 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 20:57 ` Pau Aliagas
2002-02-09 21:07 ` David Lang
2002-02-09 21:13 ` Pau Aliagas
2002-02-09 21:45 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-10 0:19 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-10 0:36 ` Herbert Xu
2002-02-10 0:54 ` ssh primer (was Re: pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4)) Jeff Garzik
2002-02-10 0:59 ` Herbert Xu
2002-02-10 1:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-10 8:13 ` Herbert Xu
2002-02-13 17:13 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-02-14 0:22 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-14 6:57 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-02-14 11:00 ` Harald Arnesen
2002-02-10 0:59 ` Ben Pfaff
2002-02-10 1:14 ` David Lang
2002-02-10 1:22 ` ssh primer (was Re: pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbuscompile " Jeff Garzik
2002-02-10 2:46 ` pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4) Alan Cox
2002-02-11 11:51 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2002-02-11 18:42 ` John Alvord
2002-02-09 11:44 ` [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4 Peter Osterlund
[not found] <fa.hme158v.ki228f@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.h89cnvv.116ski0@ifi.uio.no>
2002-02-10 13:45 ` pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4) Terje Malmedal
2002-02-11 18:51 Jesse Pollard
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