From: Harald Arnesen <gurre@start.no>
To: Rob Landley <landley@trommello.org>
Cc: Aaron Lehmann <aaronl@vitelus.com>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ssh primer (was Re: pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4))
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:00:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871yfogwgc.fsf@basilikum.skogtun.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16ZhzF-0000ST-00@gondolin.me.apana.org.au> <3C65CBDE.A9B60BBD@mandrakesoft.com> <20020213171306.GA15924@vitelus.com> <20020214002205.VBHJ21911.femail34.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there>
In-Reply-To: <20020214002205.VBHJ21911.femail34.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there> (Rob Landley's message of "Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:22:57 -0500")
Rob Landley <landley@trommello.org> writes:
> Not that it's worth it. Keys get exponentially more difficult to
> brute force as the key length increases. I read part of a book a
> long time ago (might have been called "applied cryptography") that
> figured out that if you could build a perfectly efficient computer
> that could do 1 bit's worth of calculation with the the amount of
> energy in the minimal electron state transition in a hydrogen atom,
> and you built a dyson sphere around the sun to capture its entire
> energy output for the however many billion years its expected to
> last, you wouldn't even brute-force exhaust a relatively small
> keyspace (128 bits? 256 bits? Something like that).
>
> Somebody else here is likely to recognize the above anecdote and give a more
> accurate reference. Book title and page number would be good...
Bruce Schneier's "Applied Cryptography" (second edition, may be in the
first edition as well), pages 157-158 ("Thermodynamic Limitations").
--
Hilsen Harald.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-14 11:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-02-09 2:25 [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4 Patrick Mochel
2002-02-09 3:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 4:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-09 7:29 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 7:41 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-10 2:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-10 3:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-10 7:47 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-10 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-11 18:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 5:12 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2002-02-09 9:36 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-09 9:57 ` Momchil Velikov
2002-02-09 10:01 ` Alexander Viro
2002-02-09 18:09 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-09 15:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-10 4:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-09 10:14 ` David Lang
2002-02-09 15:54 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 16:50 ` Tom Rini
2002-02-09 17:05 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 21:01 ` David Lang
2002-02-09 21:41 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 23:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 23:45 ` Tom Rini
2002-02-10 0:42 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 23:52 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-10 4:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-10 18:02 ` Tom Rini
2002-02-10 5:25 ` William Stearns
2002-02-11 17:30 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-13 11:59 ` Padraig Brady
2002-02-09 9:27 ` pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4) Rob Landley
2002-02-09 10:08 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-09 18:12 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-09 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-09 20:12 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-09 20:26 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 20:51 ` Stelian Pop
2002-02-09 23:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-09 23:49 ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-09 20:57 ` Pau Aliagas
2002-02-09 21:07 ` David Lang
2002-02-09 21:13 ` Pau Aliagas
2002-02-09 21:45 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-10 0:19 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-10 0:36 ` Herbert Xu
2002-02-10 0:54 ` ssh primer (was Re: pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4)) Jeff Garzik
2002-02-10 0:59 ` Herbert Xu
2002-02-10 1:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2002-02-10 8:13 ` Herbert Xu
2002-02-13 17:13 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-02-14 0:22 ` Rob Landley
2002-02-14 6:57 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-02-14 11:00 ` Harald Arnesen [this message]
2002-02-10 0:59 ` Ben Pfaff
2002-02-10 1:14 ` David Lang
2002-02-10 1:22 ` ssh primer (was Re: pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbuscompile " Jeff Garzik
2002-02-10 2:46 ` pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4) Alan Cox
2002-02-11 11:51 ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-11 18:42 ` John Alvord
2002-02-09 11:44 ` [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4 Peter Osterlund
2002-02-14 13:50 ssh primer (was Re: pull vs push (was Re: [bk patch] Make cardbus compile in -pre4)) Jesse Pollard
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