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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: AUDIT: copy_from_user is a deathtrap.
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 23:27:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020516232734.B116@toy.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E178sfK-0006dG-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au> <E178uPV-0007iX-00@the-village.bc.nu>

Hi!

> > > and foolish to program without reading interface specifications
> > > or the code. It did not occur to me to shift the blame onto
> > > copy_from_user creators.
> > 
> > Please send me your mailing address.  I shall send you a copy of
> > "Design of Everyday Things" (Donald A Norman).  You should not blame
> > yourself for others' bad design.
> 
> By extrapolation perhaps you'd also care to reimplement it in terms of
> exceptions, refcount the objects with an object based primitive to do the
> transfers, garbage collect to remove memory leaks and implement strings and
> variable size buffers as base objects.

Actually, no. 0 vs. -ERRNO is common in kernel, objects are not.
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-21 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.1021642692.12772.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-05-17 17:36 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-05-18  1:05   ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-18  2:57     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-16 23:27       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
     [not found] ` <200205191212.g4JCCLY25867@Port.imtp.ilyichevsk.odessa.ua>
     [not found]   ` <20020520112232.A8983@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
2002-05-21 10:57     ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-21  6:21       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-05-21  8:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-05-21 19:02           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-05-22 14:27         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-22 13:40 Petr Vandrovec
2002-05-22 18:58 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-22 14:13   ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-05-22 10:08 Petr Vandrovec
2002-05-22 16:23 ` Denis Vlasenko
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205191951460.22433-100000@home.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <E179fAd-0005vs-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-05-20 10:59   ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-19  3:38 Rusty Russell
2002-05-19  5:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-17  0:00   ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-18 21:47   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-05-19 12:22     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-19 18:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-19 19:57       ` Roman Zippel
2002-05-20  2:06       ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-20  2:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-20  4:53           ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-19 20:12             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-05-20 16:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-19 11:41   ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <E178eMm-0000NO-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205171936220.1524-100000@home.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-05-18 10:16   ` Andi Kleen
2002-05-18 16:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-19  2:10       ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-19  3:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-19  3:05           ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-19  4:01             ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-19  4:02               ` Larry McVoy
2002-05-16 23:56                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-16 23:56                 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-19  3:31           ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-19  3:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-16 23:53               ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-21 20:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-21 21:17                   ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-21 21:25                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-21 21:44                     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-21 21:46                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-05-21 22:04                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-21 22:21                           ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-22 13:47                             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-22 14:13                               ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-22 14:54                                 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-22 14:42                                   ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-22 15:27                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-22 18:58                                   ` Kasper Dupont
2002-05-22 22:02                                     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-23  3:54                                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-23 11:15                                     ` Edgar Toernig
2002-05-22 16:09                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-22 20:28                                   ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-22  0:47                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-22  5:01                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-22  6:28                         ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-22  4:57                       ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-22 13:30                         ` Alan Cox
2002-05-22 18:43                     ` Marco Colombo
2002-05-19 20:23       ` Edgar Toernig
2002-05-19 22:44         ` Alan Cox
2002-05-17  9:27 Rusty Russell
2002-05-17  9:21 ` David S. Miller
2002-05-17  9:49   ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-17  9:35     ` David S. Miller
2002-05-17 12:26       ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-17 17:42         ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-17 12:17     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-17 12:21       ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-17 12:58         ` Alan Cox
2002-05-17 12:58           ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-17 13:13             ` John Levon
2002-05-17 14:52             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-18  1:26               ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-17 17:58             ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-18  2:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-05-18 15:06       ` John Alvord
2002-05-17 10:20 ` Christoph Hellwig

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