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From: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: benh@kernel.crashing.org, torvalds@osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org,
	linuxppc64-dev@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.5.73] Signal stack fixes #1 introduce PF_SS_ACTIVE
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 09:39:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030705073946.GD32363@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16134.2877.577780.35071@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Sat, 5 July 2003 09:18:21 +1000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> 
> This is madness.
> 
> There is nothing in POSIX that says that you have to exit a signal
> handler by returning from it (which, under Linux, ends up doing a
> sigreturn or rt_sigreturn system call).  It is explicitly permitted to
> return from a RT signal handler with setcontext(), for instance.  And
> it is at least long-standing practice to return using longjmp().
> Neither setcontext nor longjmp will do a system call (yes, setcontext
> is a system call on sparc, but it isn't on x86 AFAIK).
> 
> So - the kernel doesn't (and can't and shouldn't need to) know about
> all transitions to or from a signal stack.  Therefore the PF_SS_ACTIVE
> bit is useless since it will be wrong some of the time.

Ack.

> Anyway, what is the problem with taking a signal on the signal stack
> when you in a signal handler using the signal stack?  You just keep
> going down the stack from where you are, which is what the code
> already does.

The problem is with a broken signal handler, that moves the stack
pointer to nirvana.  You get a signal, set up the signal stack, move
the pointer to nirvana, get a signal, set up the signal stack, move
the pointer to nirvana, get a signal, ...

If I was just going down the signal stack, I would be perfectly happy,
but instead the kernel believes each signal is the very first on the
signal stack and sets it up again (and again...) each time.

> BTW, I am the PPC maintainer; Ben is the powermac maintainer.

Sorry about that.

Jörn

-- 
Measure. Don't tune for speed until you've measured, and even then
don't unless one part of the code overwhelms the rest.
-- Rob Pike

  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-05  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-03 20:24 [PATCH 2.5.73] Fix broken signal optimization for i386 Jörn Engel
2003-07-04 17:43 ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-04 17:45   ` [PATCH 2.5.73] Signal stack fixes #1 introduce PF_SS_ACTIVE Jörn Engel
2003-07-04 17:51     ` [PATCH 2.5.73] Signal stack fixes #2 i386-specific Jörn Engel
2003-07-04 17:54     ` [PATCH 2.5.73] Signal stack fixes #1 introduce PF_SS_ACTIVE Jörn Engel
2003-07-04 17:58       ` [PATCH 2.5.73] Signal handling fix for ppc Jörn Engel
2003-07-04 23:26         ` Paul Mackerras
2003-07-05  7:33           ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-04 23:18       ` [PATCH 2.5.73] Signal stack fixes #1 introduce PF_SS_ACTIVE Paul Mackerras
2003-07-05  7:39         ` Jörn Engel [this message]
2003-07-06  8:47           ` Paul Mackerras
2003-07-06 10:17             ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-07 11:29               ` Paul Mackerras
2003-07-07 11:58                 ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-07 11:33               ` Paul Mackerras
2003-07-07 11:46                 ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-04 19:21     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-07-04 19:38       ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-04 20:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-07-04 20:18           ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-05  0:39             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-07-05  7:30               ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-05 10:44                 ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-05 17:16                   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-07-06 12:51                     ` Jörn Engel
2003-07-07  9:30                       ` [PATCH 2.5.74] Signal stack safety #2 i386 specific Jörn Engel
2003-07-05 17:06             ` [PATCH 2.5.73] Signal stack fixes #1 introduce PF_SS_ACTIVE Jamie Lokier
2003-07-06  1:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-07-04 19:39       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-07-04 20:24         ` Jörn Engel

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