From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Felipe Alfaro Solana <felipe_alfaro@linuxmail.org>
Cc: Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>,
George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
John stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [pm] fix time after suspend-to-*
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 18:28:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031028172818.GB2307@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1067351431.1358.11.camel@teapot.felipe-alfaro.com>
Hi!
> > Not sure... We do not want applications to know. Certainly we can't
> > send a signal; SIGPWR already has some meaning and it would be bad to
> > override it.
>
> OK, maybe using SIGPWR is not a good idea, but some userspace
> applications need to know when the system is going to sleep. Even more,
> userspace apps should be able to tell the kernel whether suspending the
> system at a given moment is a good idea or not.
You are not asking userspace whether to reboot or not, and you should
not ask them about suspend, either.
> Examples:
>
> 1. Network connections must be reestablished. A userspace program can't
> try to automatically reestablish a broken TCP connection for no apparent
> reason. A broken TCP connection could be the cause of an overloaded or
> broken server/service. If we do not inform userspace processes that the
> system is going to sleep (or that the system has been brought up from
> standby), they will blindly try to restore TCP connections back, even
> when the remote server is broken, generating a lot of unnecesary
> traffic.
gettimeofday(), if I slept for too long, oops, something strange
happened (maybe there was heavy io load and I was swapped out? or
suspend? Did machine sleep for 20 minutes in cli?) try to reconnect.
> 2. Sound: I've been unable to suspend via APM with the Yamaha YMFPCI
> driver loaded. I need to unload it, but I can't unload it if there is
> some app using the sound driver. Before going to sleep, sound-aware apps
> could be informed that the system is being put to sleep so that they
> stop playing sound gracefully. Thus, the sound driver could be
> unloaded.
Fix the driver.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-10-28 17:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-10-22 23:33 Pavel Machek
2003-10-22 23:52 ` john stultz
2003-10-23 8:17 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-23 20:23 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-23 20:55 ` john stultz
2003-10-23 23:09 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-23 23:38 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-24 0:29 ` john stultz
2003-10-24 0:39 ` john stultz
2003-10-24 2:10 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-24 7:48 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-27 23:24 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-27 23:43 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-28 1:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
2003-10-28 8:33 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-10-28 9:32 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 11:41 ` Stephen Rothwell
2003-10-28 12:29 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 12:39 ` Stephen Rothwell
2003-10-28 22:23 ` Peter Chubb
2003-10-29 2:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-29 9:43 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 14:30 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-10-28 17:28 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2003-10-28 20:16 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-10-28 21:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2003-10-28 21:29 ` George Anzinger
2003-10-29 9:38 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-29 11:28 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-10-29 11:55 ` PCI Bus error 6290 or 0290 Remus
2003-10-29 12:40 ` Meelis Roos
2003-10-29 12:49 ` Remus
2003-10-29 20:42 ` [pm] fix time after suspend-to-* George Anzinger
2003-10-30 9:02 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 15:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-28 17:26 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-28 18:20 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-28 19:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-10-28 20:19 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-10-24 7:49 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-23 23:40 ` Pavel Machek
2003-10-27 22:43 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-10-22 23:57 ` Måns Rullgård
2003-10-29 8:20 Mathias Fröhlich
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