From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Peter Williams <peterw@aurema.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: finding out the value of HZ from userspace
Date: 16 Mar 2004 07:16:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 07:16:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040316061611.GA77627@colin2.muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40569655.2030802@aurema.com>
> So it does and POSIX.1 (_SC_CLK_TCK) compliant as well. Unfortunately,
> the presence of this functionality makes it VERY difficult to understand
> why ticks are being converted from HZ==1000 values to HZ=100 values when
> they are being exported to user space especially as this conversion
> throws away precision. Can anyone enlighten me?
There are two different cases here:
Timer tick as visible to user space in the minimum delay of select()
and other kernel functions with timeout. That is what AT_CLKTCK aims at.
And exports of values with jiffie units in sysctls in /proc. This was in fact i
always a bug because they should have used ms or s as unit
(there are readily usable utility functions to do this for sysctl). Otherwise
writing documentation becomes quite difficult. But there are already i
configurations that set or read these values and was not a good idea to
subtly and silently break them. Especially since they predate any exporting
of HZ to user space. So the the conversion factor was added.
This is not only obscure sysctls, ps and top are also consumers of such
jiffies values in /proc
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-16 8:04 UTC|newest]
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2004-03-16 2:27 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16 5:53 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 6:16 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2004-03-16 23:15 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 23:56 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-17 0:15 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 9:16 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-03-16 23:45 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 16:14 Albert Cahalan
2004-03-16 17:22 ` Richard Curnow
2004-03-20 9:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 14:54 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-03-20 23:58 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-31 21:40 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-03-31 23:46 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-04-01 15:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-01 16:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:50 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-01 17:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 21:27 ` Michael Buesch
2004-04-02 0:16 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02 0:07 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02 0:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02 1:44 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02 18:28 ` Tim Bird
2004-04-02 22:05 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-01 16:12 ` Albert Cahalan
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2004-03-11 14:17 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 17:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 19:34 ` John Reiser
2004-03-13 19:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 22:14 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14 1:05 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14 1:49 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-14 14:37 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-16 0:28 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 6:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-16 23:38 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-20 10:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 11:28 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-20 11:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 23:58 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-21 1:09 ` Tim Schmielau
2004-03-21 1:30 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-21 8:00 ` Kai Henningsen
2004-03-21 10:32 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-22 22:34 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-22 23:04 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-25 17:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-25 23:22 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-27 13:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 23:52 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-28 12:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 21:11 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-20 23:26 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-13 21:19 ` tabris
2004-03-13 22:10 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14 1:07 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14 18:26 ` John Reiser
2004-03-14 2:45 ` Horst von Brand
2004-03-14 14:39 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-15 8:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-16 18:16 ` Mark Gross
2004-03-15 10:13 ` Richard Curnow
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