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From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>,
	"Randy.Dunlap" <rddunlap@osdl.org>,
	Peter Williams <peterw@aurema.com>,
	ak@muc.de, Richard.Curnow@superh.com, aeb@cwi.nl,
	linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: finding out the value of HZ from userspace
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:50:02 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0404011146490.21282@chaos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040401163047.GD25502@mail.shareable.org>

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Jamie Lokier wrote:

> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > HZ doesn't mean nothing, esp when we go to a tickless kernel...
>
> As explained several times in this thread, HZ is meaningful because it
> affects the rounding in select/poll/epoll/setitimer.  A few userspace
> programs with low jitter soft-RT timing requirements need to
> compensate for that rounding and/or deliberately synchronise
> themselves with the tick.
>
> Such programs can determine HZ experimentally and lock onto the tick
> in the manner of a PLL, but it would be nice to simply be able to
> have the value, to reduce the number of control variables.
>
> When we go to a tickless kernel and offer high-resolution timers to
> userspace, then it will be irrelevant.  Until then, or if the kernel
> goes tickless but limits the resolution of timers for efficiency, the
> value of HZ is still relevant.
>
> Not to get irritatingly back to the subject of this thread or
> anything, but...  is the value of HZ reported to userspace anywhere?
>
> Thanks :)
> -- Jamie

I may be naive, but what's the matter with:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/param.h>   // Required to be here!
int main()
{
    printf("HZ=%d\n", HZ);
    return 0;
}
It works for me.

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.24 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips).
            Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.



  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-01 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-16 16:14 Albert Cahalan
2004-03-16 17:22 ` Richard Curnow
2004-03-20  9:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 14:54   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-03-20 23:58     ` Peter Williams
2004-03-31 21:40       ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-03-31 23:46         ` Albert Cahalan
2004-04-01 15:54           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:01             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-01 16:30               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:50                 ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2004-04-01 17:01                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 21:27                   ` Michael Buesch
2004-04-02  0:16                   ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02  0:07                 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02  0:39                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02  1:44                     ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02 18:28                       ` Tim Bird
2004-04-02 22:05                         ` Peter Williams
2004-04-01 16:12             ` Albert Cahalan
     [not found] <1zkOe-Uc-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1zl7M-1eJ-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <1zn9p-3mW-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <1znj5-3wM-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <1AaWr-655-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-16  2:27         ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16  5:53           ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16  6:16             ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16 23:15               ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 23:56                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-17  0:15                   ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16  9:16             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-03-16 23:45               ` Peter Williams
     [not found] <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
2004-03-11 14:17 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 17:24   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 19:34     ` John Reiser
2004-03-13 19:38       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 22:14         ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:32           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14  1:05             ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14  1:49               ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-14 14:37                 ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-16  0:28         ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16  6:33           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-16 23:38             ` Peter Williams
2004-03-20 10:22               ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 11:28                 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-20 11:41                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 23:58                     ` Peter Williams
2004-03-21  1:09                       ` Tim Schmielau
2004-03-21  1:30                         ` Peter Williams
2004-03-21  8:00                   ` Kai Henningsen
2004-03-21 10:32                     ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-22 22:34                   ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-22 23:04                     ` Peter Williams
2004-03-25 17:40                       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-25 23:22                         ` Peter Williams
2004-03-27 13:31                           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 23:52                             ` Peter Williams
2004-03-28 12:16                               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 21:11                       ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-20 23:26                 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-13 21:19     ` tabris
2004-03-13 22:10     ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:41       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14  1:07         ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14 18:26         ` John Reiser
2004-03-14  2:45   ` Horst von Brand
2004-03-14 14:39     ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-15  8:17     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-16 18:16       ` Mark Gross
2004-03-15 10:13     ` Richard Curnow

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