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From: mec.gnu@mindspring.com (Michael Elizabeth Chastain)
To: ak@suse.de, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6 nanosecond time stamp weirdness breaks GCC build
Date: Thu,  1 Apr 2004 15:51:33 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040401205133.6C94F4B104@berman.michael-chastain.com> (raw)

Andi Kleen writes:
> The solution from back then I actually liked best was to just round
> up to the next second instead of rounding down when going from 1s
> resolution to ns.

(My understanding of kernel internals is way rusty, so if I am
talking nonsense here, just hit me with a cluestick or ignore
me or something).

Ummm, I think that will just fail in the converse way if
insn-conditions.o is retained in the inode cache while
insn-conditions.c is dropped from the cache?

That is, consider these time-stamps:

  insn-conditions.c  SSSS.NS1
  insn-conditions.o  SSSS.NS2

Where SSSS is the same value on both files, and NS2 > NS1.

According to Ulrich, the current problem is that insn-conditions.o
is dropped from the cache, so NS2 becomes 0, and insn-conditions.o
becomes older than insn-conditions.c.

With your patch, suppose that insn-conditions.c is dropped from the
cache, while insn-conditions.o remains.  Then the timestamps will be:

  insn-conditions.c  SSSS+1.0
  insn-conditions.o  SSSS.NS2

We lose again, insn-conditions.c has become newer than insn-conditions.o.

insn-conditions.c is a generated file so I think this can actually
happen during a gcc build.

Michael C

             reply	other threads:[~2004-04-01 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-01 20:51 Michael Elizabeth Chastain [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-01 19:28 Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-01 20:09 ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-01 20:39   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-04-01 20:46     ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-01 21:01       ` Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-01 21:44         ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-01 22:39     ` Joe Buck
2004-04-01 22:44       ` Paul Jarc
2004-04-01 22:48       ` Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-01 23:58         ` Joe Buck
2004-04-02  0:13           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-04-02  0:02   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02  0:35   ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-02  1:14     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02  7:57       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2004-04-02  9:22       ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-02 16:23         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02 20:45           ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-02 21:07             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02 21:56               ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-03  4:59       ` Andrew Pimlott
2004-04-02  0:37   ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-07 16:03     ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-01 21:13 ` Janis Johnson
2004-04-01 21:41   ` Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-02  0:30   ` Alan Modra
2004-04-02  9:05 ` P
2004-04-02 17:27 ` Alexandre Oliva

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