From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.9-rc2-mm1 swsusp bug report.
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:10:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041017191031.GA7476@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2hdp1gvbq.fsf@tnuctip.rychter.com>
Hi!
> Sure, flame me if you think this is the right thing to do. But I will
> continue to pitch in with a users' opinion sometimes, because I really
> believe it is important.
>
> It is easy to lose sight of the user perspective on these things if all
> you deal with is kernel development. You probably reboot your machine
> dozens of times a day anyway. However, for some users crashes and
> reboots are *very* expensive. These people (myself included) consider
> sprinkling the code with panics, crashing and failing an unacceptable
> thing to do.
You can have code that does not panic, does not crash, does not
corrupt your data, never fails to suspend and is in Linus' tree.
...no, that is too good. It sounds like a fairy tale.
So pick any four.
Pavel
PS: And it is real. We have conflicting goals here and I consider
"refuses to suspend" least critical.
--
People were complaining that M$ turns users into beta-testers...
...jr ghea gurz vagb qrirybcref, naq gurl frrz gb yvxr vg gung jnl!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-17 19:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2004-09-25 1:05 ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-09-25 10:16 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-10 18:17 ` Jan Rychter
2004-10-11 13:32 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 14:53 ` Jan Rychter
2004-10-17 19:10 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2004-10-17 21:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-11 9:56 ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-10-11 14:59 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-11 17:18 ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-10-11 19:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-10-12 8:55 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-13 17:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-10-14 21:47 ` swsusp: 8-order allocation failure on demand (was: Re: 2.6.9-rc2-mm1 swsusp bug report.) Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-10-14 21:54 ` swsusp: 8-order allocation failure on demand (update) Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-10-16 16:43 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-16 19:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-10-16 20:40 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-16 21:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2004-10-16 21:25 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-24 2:19 2.6.9-rc2-mm1 swsusp bug report Kevin Fenzi
2004-09-24 14:37 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-24 21:09 ` Kevin Fenzi
2004-09-24 23:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 1:45 ` Kevin Fenzi
2004-09-25 11:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 12:22 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-25 12:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-25 13:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 12:56 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 13:38 ` Nick Piggin
2004-09-25 13:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-25 15:45 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-25 22:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-26 10:04 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-26 21:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-26 22:43 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-27 10:12 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-09-26 16:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-09-26 18:39 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-25 10:15 ` Pavel Machek
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