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From: Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>,
	Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>,
	Michal Schmidt <xschmi00@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>,
	Karsten Wiese <annabellesgarden@yahoo.de>,
	jackit-devel <jackit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.4]
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:51:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200410292051.i9TKptOi007283@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:33:20 +0200." <20041029203320.GC5186@elte.hu>

  [ I trimmed the CC: line because several people there are on
    jackit-devel. ]

>> compiles and boots fine. no observable change in xrun behaviour though. 
>
>ok, so there's something else going on as well - or i missed an ioctl. 

i really don't think the ioctl's are relevant. 

consider what will happen if jackd does make a system call that causes
a major delay (say, because of the BKL). we will get an xrun, yes, but
this will cause jackd to stop the audio interface and
restart. max_delay is not affected by this behaviour.
 
as far as i can tell, the number reported by max_delay entirely (or
almost entirely) represents problems in kernel scheduling, specifically
with a combination of:

     a) handling the audio interface interrupt in time.
     b) marking the relevant jackd thread runnable
     c) context switching back to the relevant jackd thread

things that jackd does once its running do not, it appear to me, have
any impact on max_delay, which is based on the simple observation: 

   "i was just woken, i expect to be awakened again in N usecs or
   less.

--p

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-29 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2004-10-29  0:57 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29  2:10   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29  8:02   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29  8:21     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-29  9:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 11:01         ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 11:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 11:26             ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 11:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 13:35                 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 13:55                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:03                     ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 14:15                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:14             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:21               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:32               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 16:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:31                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:37                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:16                     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 17:02                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:09                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:16                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:33                           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 17:21                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:22                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 18:36                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 20:33                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 20:51                                     ` Paul Davis [this message]
2004-10-29 21:11                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30  1:06                                         ` Paul Davis
2004-10-30 11:34                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-26 17:16                                         ` [Jackit-devel] " Jack O'Quin
2004-10-29 20:42                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 21:31                                     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 21:25                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 21:42                                         ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 21:46                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 21:53                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 23:12                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 11:58                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 17:49                                                 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 19:17                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 19:43                                                     ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 19:47                                                     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 19:37                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 19:57                                                         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 19:52                                                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 20:15                                                         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 20:26                                                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 21:13                                                             ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 21:26                                                               ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 21:38                                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 23:12                                                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 12:07                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 12:48                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 12:54                                                                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 13:13                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 13:40                                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 15:20                                                                             ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 15:59                                                                               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 19:06                                                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 13:42                                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 13:53                                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 14:06                                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 15:47                                                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 17:55                                                                                           ` Lee Revell
2004-11-01 17:58                                                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 18:43                                                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 18:46                                                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 22:30                                                                                             ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 22:40                                                                                               ` Bill Huey
2004-11-01 22:51                                                                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 22:59                                                                                                   ` Bill Huey
2004-11-02  8:02                                                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02  8:07                                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 15:06                                                                                           ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.6.8 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 17:52                                                                                             ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 19:37                                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 19:40                                                                                                 ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 19:24                                                                                             ` Norberto Bensa
2004-11-02 19:35                                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 23:09                                                                                             ` Karsten Wiese
2004-11-03  1:12                                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-03 10:15                                                                                                 ` Karsten Wiese
2004-11-01 17:04                                                                                         ` [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.4] Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-01 17:08                                                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 20:00                                                                                             ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-01 17:24                                                                                         ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02  0:22                                                                                         ` Michal Schmidt
2004-11-01 13:54                                                                                     ` Paul Davis
2004-11-01 14:30                                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 19:30                                                                                         ` Paul Davis
2004-11-02  8:17                                                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 14:03                                                                                     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 14:12                                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 15:29                                                                                       ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 23:41                                                                                     ` [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.6] Remi Colinet
2004-11-03  1:04                                                                                       ` Remi Colinet
2004-11-01 11:55                                                                                 ` [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.4] Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 12:37                                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 12:35                                                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 12:51                                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 13:15                                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 13:40                                                                                           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 13:48                                                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 16:47                                                                                   ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-10-31 23:16                                                                             ` Michal Schmidt
2004-11-01  0:05                                                                             ` Magnus Määttä
2004-10-31 13:11                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 14:11                                                                       ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 13:22                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 14:28                                                                           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 13:30                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 21:58                                                                     ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-10-31 22:11                                                                     ` K.R. Foley
2004-10-31  2:20                                                               ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 10:00                                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 12:09                                                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 12:19                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 12:35                                                                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 12:39                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 20:05                                                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 20:29                                                         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30  0:15                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 22:31                                         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 22:50                                           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 13:15                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 17:53                                               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30  3:36                                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30  3:48                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 11:16                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 17:44                                                 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 11:28                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 11:33                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 13:16                                               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30  1:10                                         ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30  1:15                                         ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29  8:59     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29  9:29       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 13:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:19       ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 14:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:38           ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 19:33     ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 19:35       ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 14:32 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-01 14:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 16:34 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-01 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar

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