From: Bill Huey (hui) <bhuey@lnxw.com>
To: Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
mark_h_johnson@raytheon.com, Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>,
Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>,
Michal Schmidt <xschmi00@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>,
Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.stanford.edu>,
Karsten Wiese <annabellesgarden@yahoo.de>,
Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>, "K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.4]
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:40:47 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041101224047.GA19186@nietzsche.lynx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041101233037.314337c8@mango.fruits.de>
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 11:30:37PM +0100, Florian Schmidt wrote:
> took jackit-devel off cc, since it bounced anyways [too many recipients]
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 19:46:15 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
...
> >
> > also, there are no "arbitrary load" latency guarantees with
> > DEADLOCK_DETECTION turned on, since we search the list of all held locks
> > during task-exit time - this can generate pretty bad latencies e.g.
> > during hackbench.
> btw: i see the same build failure as Rui with lock debugging disabled. Since
> the lock debugging can screw timings, will this be fixed in [one of] the next
> version[s]?
Unlikely, it's got to lock the entire kernel to make sure that things aren't
changing under it. Getting measurements is useful at this stage, but don't expect
it to be a finished product any time soon and please keep that in mind. Stability
should be, if it's not already, the single most important things in this project
at this phase. Getting numbers now for a specific single application is going to
be of limit use until the system is stable enough for general characterization.
Keep doing it, but keep in mind that anything you're going to get at this time
is going to be very coarse. Don't put too much weight on it.
That's my take.
bill
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-02 5:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2004-10-29 0:57 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 2:10 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 8:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-29 9:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 11:01 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 11:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 11:26 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 11:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 13:35 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 13:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:03 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 14:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:32 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:16 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 17:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:33 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 17:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 18:36 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 20:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 20:51 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 21:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 1:06 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-30 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-26 17:16 ` [Jackit-devel] " Jack O'Quin
2004-10-29 20:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 21:31 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 21:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 21:42 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 21:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 21:53 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 23:12 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 11:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 17:49 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 19:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 19:43 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 19:47 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 19:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 19:57 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 19:52 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 20:15 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 20:26 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 21:13 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 21:26 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 21:38 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 23:12 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 12:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 12:54 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 13:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 13:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 15:20 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 15:59 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 19:06 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 13:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 13:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 14:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 15:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 17:55 ` Lee Revell
2004-11-01 17:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 18:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 22:30 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 22:40 ` Bill Huey [this message]
2004-11-01 22:51 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 22:59 ` Bill Huey
2004-11-02 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 8:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 15:06 ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.6.8 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 17:52 ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 19:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 19:40 ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 19:24 ` Norberto Bensa
2004-11-02 19:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 23:09 ` Karsten Wiese
2004-11-03 1:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-03 10:15 ` Karsten Wiese
2004-11-01 17:04 ` [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.4] Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-01 17:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 20:00 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-01 17:24 ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 0:22 ` Michal Schmidt
2004-11-01 13:54 ` Paul Davis
2004-11-01 14:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 19:30 ` Paul Davis
2004-11-02 8:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 14:03 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 14:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 15:29 ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 23:41 ` [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.6] Remi Colinet
2004-11-03 1:04 ` Remi Colinet
2004-11-01 11:55 ` [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.4] Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 12:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 12:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 12:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 13:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 13:40 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 13:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 16:47 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-10-31 23:16 ` Michal Schmidt
2004-11-01 0:05 ` Magnus Määttä
2004-10-31 13:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 14:11 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 13:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 14:28 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 13:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 21:58 ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-10-31 22:11 ` K.R. Foley
2004-10-31 2:20 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 10:00 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 12:09 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 12:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 12:35 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 12:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 20:05 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 20:29 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 0:15 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 22:31 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 22:50 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 13:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 17:53 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 3:36 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 3:48 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 11:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 17:44 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 11:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 11:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 13:16 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 1:10 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 1:15 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 8:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 9:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 13:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:19 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 14:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:38 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 19:33 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 19:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 14:32 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-01 14:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 16:34 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-01 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
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