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From: Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Florian Schmidt <mista.tapas@gmx.net>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	mark_h_johnson@raytheon.com, Bill Huey <bhuey@lnxw.com>,
	Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>,
	Michal Schmidt <xschmi00@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>,
	Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.stanford.edu>,
	Karsten Wiese <annabellesgarden@yahoo.de>,
	jackit-devel <jackit-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Rui Nuno Capela <rncbc@rncbc.org>, "K.R. Foley" <kr@cybsft.com>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.4]
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 14:30:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200411011930.iA1JULiQ009302@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:30:49 +0100." <20041101143049.GA22221@elte.hu>

>poll() is quite complex and with a good number of locks in the path the
>maximum latency increases accordingly.

how can poll(2) be more complex than read/write? if it is, it
shouldn't be ;)

>btw., couldnt jackd use a separate input and output thread (of identical
>priority), to be purely read()/write() based? This method should also
>solve the priority problems of poll(): the thread woken up later will do
>the work later. (hence the _earlier_ interrupt source will be handled
>first.) With poll() how do you tell which fd needs attention first, if
>both are set?

we don't really care which one needs attention "first". the jack process
cycle ends up consuming and producing data - 

      before the ALSA backend tells jackd to run the process cycle,
         it will read the data from the capture fd (though its done
	 using mmap, so there is no read(2) call)

      just before jackd goes back to sleep waiting for the next
         interrupt, the ALSA backend will write data to the playback fd
	 (again, using mmap, so there is no actual write(2) call)

it is important to use mmap - it avoids multiple kernel entries and
data copying. for consumer cards this doesn't matter much, but for
high end multichannel cards, the data copy would be inexcusable.

--p



  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-01 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2004-10-29  0:57 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29  2:10   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29  8:02   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29  8:21     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-10-29  9:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 11:01         ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 11:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 11:26             ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 11:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 13:35                 ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 13:55                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:03                     ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 14:15                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:14             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:21               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:32               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 16:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:31                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:37                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 16:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:16                     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 17:02                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:09                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:16                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:33                           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 17:21                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 17:22                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 18:36                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 20:33                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 20:51                                     ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 21:11                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30  1:06                                         ` Paul Davis
2004-10-30 11:34                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-26 17:16                                         ` [Jackit-devel] " Jack O'Quin
2004-10-29 20:42                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 21:31                                     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 21:25                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 21:42                                         ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 21:46                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 21:53                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 23:12                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 11:58                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 17:49                                                 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 19:17                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 19:43                                                     ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 19:47                                                     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 19:37                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 19:57                                                         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 19:52                                                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 20:15                                                         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 20:26                                                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 21:13                                                             ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 21:26                                                               ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 21:38                                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 23:12                                                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 12:07                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 12:48                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 12:54                                                                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 13:13                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 13:40                                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 15:20                                                                             ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 15:59                                                                               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 19:06                                                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 13:42                                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 13:53                                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 14:06                                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 15:47                                                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 17:55                                                                                           ` Lee Revell
2004-11-01 17:58                                                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 18:43                                                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 18:46                                                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 22:30                                                                                             ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 22:40                                                                                               ` Bill Huey
2004-11-01 22:51                                                                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 22:59                                                                                                   ` Bill Huey
2004-11-02  8:02                                                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02  8:07                                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 15:06                                                                                           ` [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.6.8 Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 17:52                                                                                             ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 19:37                                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 19:40                                                                                                 ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 19:24                                                                                             ` Norberto Bensa
2004-11-02 19:35                                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-02 23:09                                                                                             ` Karsten Wiese
2004-11-03  1:12                                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-03 10:15                                                                                                 ` Karsten Wiese
2004-11-01 17:04                                                                                         ` [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.4] Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-01 17:08                                                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 20:00                                                                                             ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-11-01 17:24                                                                                         ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02  0:22                                                                                         ` Michal Schmidt
2004-11-01 13:54                                                                                     ` Paul Davis
2004-11-01 14:30                                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 19:30                                                                                         ` Paul Davis [this message]
2004-11-02  8:17                                                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 14:03                                                                                     ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 14:12                                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 15:29                                                                                       ` K.R. Foley
2004-11-02 23:41                                                                                     ` [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.6] Remi Colinet
2004-11-03  1:04                                                                                       ` Remi Colinet
2004-11-01 11:55                                                                                 ` [Fwd: Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.9-mm1-V0.4] Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 12:37                                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 12:35                                                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 12:51                                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 13:15                                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 13:40                                                                                           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-11-01 13:48                                                                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 16:47                                                                                   ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-10-31 23:16                                                                             ` Michal Schmidt
2004-11-01  0:05                                                                             ` Magnus Määttä
2004-10-31 13:11                                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 14:11                                                                       ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 13:22                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 14:28                                                                           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 13:30                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 21:58                                                                     ` Rui Nuno Capela
2004-10-31 22:11                                                                     ` K.R. Foley
2004-10-31  2:20                                                               ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 10:00                                                                 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-31 12:09                                                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 12:19                                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-31 12:35                                                                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-31 12:39                                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 20:05                                                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 20:29                                                         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30  0:15                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 22:31                                         ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-29 22:50                                           ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30 13:15                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 17:53                                               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30  3:36                                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30  3:48                                             ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 11:16                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 17:44                                                 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30 11:28                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 11:33                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-30 13:16                                               ` Florian Schmidt
2004-10-30  1:10                                         ` Lee Revell
2004-10-30  1:15                                         ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29  8:59     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29  9:29       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 13:48     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:19       ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 14:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-10-29 14:38           ` Paul Davis
2004-10-29 19:33     ` Lee Revell
2004-10-29 19:35       ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-11-01 14:32 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-01 14:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-01 16:34 Mark_H_Johnson
2004-11-01 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar

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