2.6.10-rc2: strange behavior on dual Opteron w/ NUMA

2.6.10-rc2: strange behavior on dual Opteron w/ NUMA

[Rafael J. Wysocki]

Hi,

I am observing a strange behavior of the 2.6.10-rc1-mm5 and 2.6.10-rc2 kernels 
on a dual-Opteron box with NUMA (Tyan Thunder K8W).  It occurs in specific 
conditions, but seems to be 100% reproducible.

The situation is the following: I run X with KDE 3.3.1 (SuSE binaries) on SuSE 
9.1 (x86-64), I run gkrellm in the background, I edit a text file using Kate, 
there's a Konqueror window open and at the same time I play OGG files using 
Noatun (not so unusual, I'd guess).  Then, after some time (variable), Kate 
suddenly starts to repeat the most recently typed character (I have to leave 
its window to stop this), Noatun stops playing and arts reports CPU overload.  
gkrellm also shows the sudden increase of CPU load (apparently, only one CPU 
is almost 100% loaded and the load sometimes "flows" from one CPU to the 
other).  It all takes about 10 seconds.  Then it calms down, and I can start 
playing music and typing again.  Sometimes Kate behaves normally, but every 
time it happens a CPU gets overloaded which causes Noatun to stop playing and 
CPU overload is reported (in such cases, the CPU is overloaded with _system_ 
load).  So far, it's happened every time I ran the box with one of the said 
kernels, and it can happen several times in a row (at random times).

It doesn't occur on the 2.6.10-rc1 kernel (for sure) and, AFAICT, it doesn't 
occur on the previous -mm kernels (I must admit I haven't tested them 
thoroughly on the dual box, though).  I also do not observe this kind of 
problems on a single-CPU box with a similar setup, but I usually don't use 
Noatun on it.

I suspect that this has been intorduced in 2.6.10-rc1-mm5, so if you have any 
ideas, please let me know.  If you need more information, please let me know 
too.

Greets,
RJW

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Re: 2.6.10-rc2: strange behavior on dual Opteron w/ NUMA

[Andi Kleen]

> I suspect that this has been intorduced in 2.6.10-rc1-mm5, so if you have any 
> ideas, please let me know.  If you need more information, please let me know 
> too.

Could be the recent futex change. It seems to cause all kinds of problems.
I would try reverting that.

-Andi

Re: 2.6.10-rc2: strange behavior on dual Opteron w/ NUMA

[Rafael J. Wysocki]

On Monday 15 of November 2004 23:35, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > I suspect that this has been intorduced in 2.6.10-rc1-mm5, so if you have 
any 
> > ideas, please let me know.  If you need more information, please let me 
know 
> > too.
> 
> Could be the recent futex change. It seems to cause all kinds of problems.
> I would try reverting that.

You mean futex_wait-fix.patch?  Hasn't it already been identified as a buggy 
one?

RJW

-- 
- Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?
- That depends a good deal on where you want to get to.
		-- Lewis Carroll "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland"

Re: 2.6.10-rc2: strange behavior on dual Opteron w/ NUMA [u]

[Rafael J. Wysocki]

On Tuesday 16 of November 2004 00:32, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Monday 15 of November 2004 23:35, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > I suspect that this has been intorduced in 2.6.10-rc1-mm5, so if you 
have 
> any 
> > > ideas, please let me know.  If you need more information, please let me 
> know 
> > > too.
> > 
> > Could be the recent futex change. It seems to cause all kinds of problems.
> > I would try reverting that.
> 
> You mean futex_wait-fix.patch?  Hasn't it already been identified as a buggy 
> one?

For the record: 2.6.10-rc2-mm1 does not seem to have the problem, and it has 
the futex_wait-fix.patch reverted, apparently, so I assume that this patch 
was really to blame.

Greets,
RJW

-- 
- Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?
- That depends a good deal on where you want to get to.
		-- Lewis Carroll "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland"