From: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@hist.no>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
andrea@suse.de, marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH] oom killer (Core)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:14:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041205211443.GA31731@hh.idb.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1102108823.13353.267.camel@tglx.tec.linutronix.de>
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:20:22PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 15:41 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
> > The case of OOM killed sshd is fixable without touching the kernel:
> > Make sure sshd is started from init, init will then restart sshd whenever
> > it quits for some reason. This will get you your essential sshd back
> > assuming the machine is still running and the OOM killer managed
> > to free up some memory by killing some other processes.
> >
> > One might still wish for better OOM behaviour, but it is a case
> > where something has to give.
> >
>
> Hey, are you kidding ?
>
Please don't misunderstand. I'm not saing that 2.6 is fine,
only that there is a way to automatically restart a sshd accidentally
killed by the OOM killer. This could probably save you some of those
trips, if you keep experimenting with 2.6.
> 2.4 lets me not in, because the fork of sshd fails. How do you fix this
> with changing the userspace ?
>
Fork failing is another issue than a killed sshd. It is usually fixed
by using ulimit so a buggy process simply cant fork off way too
many children. (Or use up too much memory.)
> 2.6 oom is plain buggy
>
Quite possible, but be aware that these things can happen with 2.4 too.
It is possible to get 2.4 into a shortage where fork fails,
you should use ulimit anyway to avoid that. Also, having
a sshd that is restarted by "init" is a good idea anyway
on such a remote machine. 2.4 might not kill sshd by kernel bug, but
who knows what some future exploit or future bug could do.
> I have no problem to help myself, but I want to get this fixed in a
> reliable way which meets the comment in oom_kill.c: "least surprise"
I too want a well-behaved OOM killer. Workarounds are available though,
until this happens.
Helge Hafting
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-12-05 21:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-12-01 9:49 tglx
2004-12-01 21:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-01 22:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-01 22:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-02 3:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-02 11:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-02 13:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-02 16:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-02 16:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-02 11:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-12-02 17:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-02 17:27 ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-02 18:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-02 18:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-02 19:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-02 18:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-02 19:07 ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-02 19:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-02 19:22 ` Andrew Morton
2004-12-02 19:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-02 20:11 ` Andre Tomt
2004-12-03 22:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-02 23:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-03 14:41 ` Helge Hafting
2004-12-03 21:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-05 21:14 ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2004-12-02 23:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-03 2:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-03 22:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-03 22:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-03 23:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-10 16:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-10 17:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-10 17:43 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-10 17:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-10 18:00 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-10 18:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-10 18:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-10 19:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-10 16:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-03 21:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-03 22:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-05 2:52 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-05 13:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-05 15:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-10 16:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-10 16:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-10 17:43 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-10 17:47 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-10 17:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-10 17:57 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-12 0:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-12-24 1:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-01 10:21 tvrtko.ursulin
2004-12-04 7:00 Voluspa
2004-12-04 8:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-04 12:42 Voluspa
2004-12-04 16:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-04 18:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-04 21:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-05 0:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-05 14:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-05 15:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-12-05 16:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2004-12-05 2:22 Voluspa
2004-12-05 8:32 Voluspa
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