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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: noahm@csail.mit.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: OOM problems with 2.6.11-rc4
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:21:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050316142114.3f853d85.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050316183701.GB21597@opteron.random>

Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 04:04:35AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > +			if (!reclaim_state->reclaimed_slab &&
> > > +			    zone->pages_scanned >= (zone->nr_active +
> > > +						    zone->nr_inactive) * 4)
> > >  				zone->all_unreclaimable = 1;
> > 
> > That might not change anything because we clear ->all_unreclaimable in
> > free_page_bulk().  [..]
> 
> Really? free_page_bulk is called inside shrink_slab, and so it's overwritten
> later by all_unreclaimable. Otherwise how could all_unreclaimable be set
> in the first place if a single page freed by shrink_slab would be enough
> to clear it?
> 
> 	shrink_slab
> 	all_unreclaimable = 0
> 	zone->pages_scanned >= (zone->nr_active [..]
> 	all_unreclaimable = 1
> 
> 							try_to_free_pages
> 							all_unreclaimable == 1
> 							oom

Spose so.

> I also considering changing shrink_slab to return a progress retval, but
> then I noticed I could get away with a one liner fix ;).
> 
> Your fix is better but it should be mostly equivalent in pratcie. I
> liked the dontrylock not risking to go oom, the one liner couldn't
> handle that ;).

It has a problem.  If ZONE_DMA is really, really oom, kswapd will sit there
freeing up ZONE_NORMAL slab objects and not setting all_unreclaimable. 
We'll end up using tons of CPU and reclaiming lots of slab in response to a
ZONE_DMA oom.

I'm thinking that the most accurate way of fixing this and also avoiding
the "we're fragmenting slab but not actually freeing pages yet" problem is


- change task_struct->reclaim_state so that it has an array of booleans
  (one per zone)

- in kmem_cache_free, work out what zone the object corresponds to and
  set the boolean in current->reclaim_state which corresponds to that zone.

- in balance_pgdat(), inspect this zone's boolean to see if we're making
  any forward progress with slab freeing.

Probably we can do the work in kmem_cache_free() at the place where we
spill the slab magazine, to optimise things a bit.  I haven't looked at it.

But that has a problem too.  Some other task might be freeing objects into
the relevant zone instead of this one.

So maybe a better approach would be to add a "someone freed something"
counter to the zone structure.  That would be incremented whenever anyone
frees a page for a slab object.  Then in balance_pdgat we take a look at
that before and after performing the LRU and slab scans.  If it
incremented, dont' set all_unreclaimable.  And still keep the
free_pages_bulk code there as the code which takes us _out_ of the
all_unreclaimable state.

It's tricky.



  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-16 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-15 20:44 Noah Meyerhans
2005-03-15 21:56 ` Sean
2005-03-15 22:12   ` Lee Revell
2005-03-15 23:46 ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-18 16:12   ` Noah Meyerhans
2005-04-13 13:47     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-04-14 16:56       ` Noah Meyerhans
2005-03-16  0:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-03-16 11:12   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-03-16 12:04   ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-16 12:15     ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-16 18:37     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-03-16 22:21       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-03-23 19:53       ` OOM problems on 2.6.12-rc1 with many fsx tests Mingming Cao
2005-03-23 22:49         ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-23 23:13           ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-03-23 23:20             ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-23 23:26               ` Andries Brouwer
2005-03-23 23:30                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-03-23 23:42                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-23 23:49                     ` [Ext2-devel] " Badari Pulavarty
2005-03-24  1:49                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2005-03-24  2:00                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-25 21:56         ` Andrew Morton
2005-03-25 22:11           ` [Ext2-devel] " Badari Pulavarty
2005-03-27  0:23             ` Mingming Cao
2005-03-27 19:22               ` Mingming Cao
2005-03-27 20:06                 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-03-27 20:17                   ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-03-26  0:17         ` Dave Jones
2005-03-26  0:20           ` [Ext2-devel] " Badari Pulavarty
2005-04-04  1:35         ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-04 16:50           ` Mingming Cao
2005-04-04 20:04             ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-04 20:24               ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-04-04 20:33                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-05 17:04               ` [Ext2-devel] " Mingming Cao
2005-04-06  1:23                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-12 12:50                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-04-05 16:44           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2005-03-16 12:23   ` OOM problems with 2.6.11-rc4 Andrew Morton
2005-03-16 12:30   ` Andrew Morton

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