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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] dynticks - implement no idle hz for x86
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:14:48 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509031814.49666.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050903090650.B26998@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:06, Russell King wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 06:01:08PM +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 17:58, Russell King wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 04:13:10PM +1000, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > > Noone's ignoring you.
> > > >
> > > > What we need to do is ensure that dynamic ticks is working properly
> > > > on x86 and worth including before anything else. If and when we
> > > > confirm this it makes sense only then to try and merge code from the
> > > > other 2 architectures to as much common code as possible as no doubt
> > > > we'll be modifying other architectures we're less familiar with. At
> > > > that stage we will definitely want to tread even more cautiously at
> > > > that stage.
> > >
> > > dyntick has all the hallmarks of ending up another mess just like the
> > > "generic" (hahaha) irq stuff in kernel/irq - it's being developed in
> > > precisely the same way - by ignore non-x86 stuff.
> > >
> > > I can well see that someone will say "ok, this is ready, merge it"
> > > at which point we then end up with multiple differing userspace
> > > methods of controlling it depending on the architecture, but
> > > multiple differing kernel interfaces as well.
> > >
> > > Indeed, you seem to be at the point where you'd like akpm to merge
> > > it.  That sets alarm bells ringing if you haven't considered these
> > > issues.
> > >
> > > I want to avoid that.  Just because a couple of people say "we'll
> > > deal with that later" it's no guarantee that it _will_ happen.  I
> > > want to ensure that ARM doesn't get fscked over again like it did
> > > with the generic IRQ crap.
> >
> > Ok I'll make it clearer. We don't merge x86 dynticks to mainline till all
> > are consolidated in -mm.
>
> Does this mean you're seriously going to rewrite bits of it after
> you've spent what seems like months sorting out all the problems
> currently being found?
>
> Excuse me for being stupid, but I somehow don't see that happening.
> Those months would be effectively wasted effort, both on the side
> of the people working on the patches and those testing them.

I've personally been on this code for 3 separate days in total and have no 
deadline or requirement for this to go in ever so I should stop speaking on 
behalf of the others.

Cheers,
Con

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-03  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-31 16:58 Updated dynamic tick patches Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 17:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Fix lost tick calculation in timer_pm.c Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 22:36   ` Zachary Amsden
2005-08-31 22:47     ` john stultz
2005-09-02 15:43   ` [PATCH 1/3] dynticks - implement no idle hz for x86 Con Kolivas
2005-09-02 15:45     ` [PATCH 2/3] dyntick - Fix lost tick calculation in timer pm.c Con Kolivas
2005-09-02 15:46       ` [PATCH 3/3] dyntick - Recover walltime upon wakeup Con Kolivas
2005-09-02 17:25       ` [PATCH 2/3] dyntick - Fix lost tick calculation in timer pm.c Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-02 20:18         ` Thomas Schlichter
2005-09-02 21:21           ` john stultz
2005-09-02 16:56     ` [PATCH 1/3] dynticks - implement no idle hz for x86 Russell King
2005-09-02 17:12       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-03  6:13       ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-03  7:58         ` Russell King
2005-09-03  8:01           ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-03  8:06             ` Russell King
2005-09-03  8:14               ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2005-09-04 20:10                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-04 20:26                   ` Russell King
2005-09-04 20:37                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-04 21:17                       ` Russell King
2005-09-05  3:08                       ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-05 16:28                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05  6:58                       ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-05 16:30                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-04 20:41                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05  5:32                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  5:48                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05  6:32                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  6:44                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-06 20:51                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07  8:13                               ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-07 15:00                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 15:53                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 17:07                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 17:23                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 18:14                                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 18:22                                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 16:14                           ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-07 16:42                             ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-07 17:17                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 17:27                                 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-07 18:18                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 18:33                                     ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-09 16:27                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-05  7:37                       ` Russell King
2005-09-05  7:49                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  8:00                           ` Russell King
2005-09-05 16:33                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05  7:00                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  7:27                     ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-05 17:02                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07  7:37                         ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-07 15:05                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-08 10:00                             ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-08 21:22                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-08 22:08                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-09 22:30                                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-20 11:06                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-20 14:58                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-22 13:38                                       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-09-22 14:52                                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-22 18:32                                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-26 15:08                                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-23  6:55                                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  7:44                     ` Russell King
2005-09-05  8:19                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  8:32                         ` Russell King
2005-09-05  9:24                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 17:06                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 17:04                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 17:27                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 18:06                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 13:19                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 16:57                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 17:25                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 18:11                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-03  4:05   ` [PATCH 1/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Fix lost tick calculation in timer_pm.c Lee Revell
2005-09-03  4:18     ` Peter Williams
2005-09-03  4:34       ` Lee Revell
2005-09-03  4:48         ` Peter Williams
2005-09-03  5:15     ` Parag Warudkar
2005-09-03  5:30       ` Lee Revell
2005-09-03  5:20     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-06 10:32     ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-06 10:46       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-06 18:04     ` john stultz
2005-08-31 17:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Cleanup Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 17:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Recover walltime upon wakeup Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-01  5:23 ` Updated dynamic tick patches Con Kolivas
2005-09-01 13:07   ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-01 13:19     ` David Weinehall
2005-09-01 13:46       ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-01 14:11     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-02 17:34     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-03 10:16       ` Tony Lindgren

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