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From: Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>
To: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	vatsa@in.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org,
	ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] dynticks - implement no idle hz for x86
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:37:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050904203755.GA25856@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050904212616.B11265@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 04.09.2005 [21:26:16 +0100], Russell King wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 01:10:54PM -0700, Nishanth Aravamudan wrote:
> > I've got a few ideas that I think might help push Con's patch coalescing
> > efforts in an arch-independent fashion.
> 
> Note that ARM contains cleanups on top of Tony's original work, on
> which the x86 version is based.
> 
> Basically, Tony submitted his ARM version, we discussed it, fixed up
> some locking problems and simplified it (it contained multiple
> structures which weren't necessary, even in multiple timer-based systems).

Make sense. Thanks for the quick feedback!

> I'd be really surprised if any architecture couldn't use what ARM has
> today - in other words, this is the only kernel-side interface:
> 
> #ifdef CONFIG_NO_IDLE_HZ
> 
> #define DYN_TICK_SKIPPING       (1 << 2)
> #define DYN_TICK_ENABLED        (1 << 1)
> #define DYN_TICK_SUITABLE       (1 << 0)
> 
> struct dyn_tick_timer {
>         unsigned int    state;                  /* Current state */
>         int             (*enable)(void);        /* Enables dynamic tick */
>         int             (*disable)(void);       /* Disables dynamic tick */
>         void            (*reprogram)(unsigned long); /* Reprograms the timer */
>         int             (*handler)(int, void *, struct pt_regs *);
> };
> 
> void timer_dyn_reprogram(void);
> #else
> #define timer_dyn_reprogram()   do { } while (0)
> #endif

That looks great! So I guess I'm just suggesting moving this from
include/asm-arch/mach/time.h to arch-independent headers? Perhaps
timer.h is the best place for now, as it already contains the
next_timer_interrupt() prototype (which probably should be in the #ifdef
with timer_dyn_reprogram()).

> > First of all, and maybe this is just me, I think it would be good to
> > make the dyn_tick_timer per-interrupt source, as opposed to each arch?
> > Thus, for x86, we would have a dyn_tick_timer structure for the PIT,
> > APIC, ACPI PM-timer and the HPET. These structures could be put in
> > arch-specific timer.c files (there currently is not one for x86, I
> > believe).
> 
> Each timer source should have its own struct dyn_tick_timer.  On x86,
> maybe it makes sense having a pointer in the init_timer_opts or timer_opts
> structures?

Well, I know John Stultz is not a big fan of timer_opts, and is trying
to get rid of it :) timer_opts is supposed to be for timesources, I
believe, which are distinct from interrupt sources (e.g., TSC, Cyclone,
etc.), whereas I think dyn-tick is dealing with interrupt sources. I
guess if hardware (like the acpi_pm) can do both, there could be some
sort of inter-hooking.

> > I think ARM and s390 could perhaps use this infrastructure as well?
> 
> ARM already has a well thought-out encapsulation which is 100% suited to
> its needs - which are essentially the same as x86 - the ability to select
> one of several timer sources at boot time.
> 
> I would suggest having a good look at the ARM implementation.  See:
>  include/asm-arm/mach/time.h (bit quoted above)
>  arch/arm/kernel/irq.c (to update system time before calling any irq handler)
>  arch/arm/kernel/time.c (initialisation and sysfs interface, etc)
>  arch/arm/mach-sa1100/time.c, arch/arm/mach-pxa/time.c, and
>  arch/arm/mach-omap1/time.c (dyntick machine class implementations).

Yeah, I took a quick look before sending out my mail, but obviously need
to study it more. Thanks for the pointers! I guess that the time.h,
irq.c and time.c bits could all (or mostly) be done in arch-independent
code? I agree that your encapsulation seems to be suited to most arch's
use of NO_IDLE_HZ.

Overall, though, do you agree it would be best to have the common code
in a common file? If so, I'll work harder on getting some patches out.

Thanks,
Nish

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-04 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-31 16:58 Updated dynamic tick patches Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 17:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Fix lost tick calculation in timer_pm.c Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 22:36   ` Zachary Amsden
2005-08-31 22:47     ` john stultz
2005-09-02 15:43   ` [PATCH 1/3] dynticks - implement no idle hz for x86 Con Kolivas
2005-09-02 15:45     ` [PATCH 2/3] dyntick - Fix lost tick calculation in timer pm.c Con Kolivas
2005-09-02 15:46       ` [PATCH 3/3] dyntick - Recover walltime upon wakeup Con Kolivas
2005-09-02 17:25       ` [PATCH 2/3] dyntick - Fix lost tick calculation in timer pm.c Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-02 20:18         ` Thomas Schlichter
2005-09-02 21:21           ` john stultz
2005-09-02 16:56     ` [PATCH 1/3] dynticks - implement no idle hz for x86 Russell King
2005-09-02 17:12       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-03  6:13       ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-03  7:58         ` Russell King
2005-09-03  8:01           ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-03  8:06             ` Russell King
2005-09-03  8:14               ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-04 20:10                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-04 20:26                   ` Russell King
2005-09-04 20:37                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan [this message]
2005-09-04 21:17                       ` Russell King
2005-09-05  3:08                       ` Con Kolivas
2005-09-05 16:28                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05  6:58                       ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-05 16:30                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-04 20:41                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05  5:32                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  5:48                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05  6:32                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  6:44                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-06 20:51                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07  8:13                               ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-07 15:00                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 15:53                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 17:07                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 17:23                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 18:14                                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 18:22                                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07 16:14                           ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-07 16:42                             ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-07 17:17                               ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 17:27                                 ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-07 18:18                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-07 18:33                                     ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-09-09 16:27                                 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-05  7:37                       ` Russell King
2005-09-05  7:49                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  8:00                           ` Russell King
2005-09-05 16:33                             ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05  7:00                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  7:27                     ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-05 17:02                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-07  7:37                         ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-07 15:05                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-08 10:00                             ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-08 21:22                               ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-08 22:08                                 ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-09 22:30                                   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-20 11:06                                   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-20 14:58                                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-22 13:38                                       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2005-09-22 14:52                                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-22 18:32                                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-26 15:08                                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-23  6:55                                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  7:44                     ` Russell King
2005-09-05  8:19                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05  8:32                         ` Russell King
2005-09-05  9:24                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 17:06                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 17:04                       ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 17:27                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 18:06                           ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 13:19                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 16:57                     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-05 17:25                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-05 18:11                         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-09-03  4:05   ` [PATCH 1/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Fix lost tick calculation in timer_pm.c Lee Revell
2005-09-03  4:18     ` Peter Williams
2005-09-03  4:34       ` Lee Revell
2005-09-03  4:48         ` Peter Williams
2005-09-03  5:15     ` Parag Warudkar
2005-09-03  5:30       ` Lee Revell
2005-09-03  5:20     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-06 10:32     ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-06 10:46       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-06 18:04     ` john stultz
2005-08-31 17:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Cleanup Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-08-31 17:27 ` [PATCH 3/3] Updated dynamic tick patches - Recover walltime upon wakeup Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-01  5:23 ` Updated dynamic tick patches Con Kolivas
2005-09-01 13:07   ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-01 13:19     ` David Weinehall
2005-09-01 13:46       ` Tony Lindgren
2005-09-01 14:11     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-02 17:34     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2005-09-03 10:16       ` Tony Lindgren

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