From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: gregkh@suse.de, davej@codemonkey.org.uk, arjan@infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] More PCI patches for 2.6.13
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:36:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050909163634.21afe4ca.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0509091613310.3051@g5.osdl.org>
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Greg KH wrote:
> >
> > I fixed up all of the PCI core and USB drivers that were flagged by
> > these warnings already. Biggest area left is network drivers that I
> > saw.
>
> The reason I really dislike patches like these is that it causes people to
> do questionable things.
>
> For example, there may be perfectly valid reasons why somebody doesn't
> care about the result. I don't see much point in forcing people to check
> the return value of "pci_enable_wake()" for example. There's really no
> real reason to ever care, as far as I can tell - if it fails, there's
> nothing you can really do about it anyway.
>
> Also, in general, the fact is that things like "pci_set_power_state()"
> might fail in _theory_, but we just don't care. A driver that doesn't
> check the return value is in practice as good a driver as one that does,
> and forcing people to add code that is totally useless in reality - or
> look at a warning that is irritating - is just not very productive.
>
> There are functions where it is really _important_ to check the error
> return, because they return errors often enough - and the error case is
> something you have to do something about - that it's good to force people
> to be aware.
>
> But "pci_set_power_state()"?
>
> I don't think so.
>
If something like a PCI power management function fails then it will likely
cause suspend or resume to malfunction, and we have a lot of such problems.
So we-the-developers do need to hear about it when such functions fail. So
either a) each and every driver has to blurt a printk (dumb) or b) we stick
a warning and a backtrace in the failing function (better).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-09 23:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-09 22:07 Greg KH
2005-09-09 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-09 22:54 ` Greg KH
2005-09-09 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-09 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-09 23:36 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-09-10 0:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-10 1:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-10 18:33 ` John W. Linville
2005-09-10 18:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-11 11:33 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-10 10:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-10 21:07 Alan Stern
2005-09-10 21:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-10 21:58 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-10 22:31 ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-10 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-10 23:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-11 0:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-11 0:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-11 0:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-09-10 23:02 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-11 11:38 ` Pavel Machek
2005-09-10 22:32 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-09-10 23:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-11 6:47 ` David Woodhouse
2005-09-11 4:41 ` Greg KH
2005-09-11 6:47 ` Alistair John Strachan
2005-09-11 2:34 Gabriel A. Devenyi
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