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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: zippel@linux-m68k.org, ak@suse.de, rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk,
	tony.luck@gmail.com, paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: New (now current development process)
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:34:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051031163408.41a266f3.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510311611540.27915@g5.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > 
> > Are you sure these kernels are feature-equivalent?
> 
> They may not be feature-equivalent in reality, but it's hard to generate 
> something that has the features (or lack there-of) of old kernels these 
> days. Which is problematic.

Probably.

> But some of it is likely also compilers. gcc does insane padding in many 
> cases these days. 

2.6.14 `make allnoconfig':

gcc-2.95.4:

	bix:/usr/src/25> size vmlinux 
	   text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
	 665502  152379   55120  873001   d5229 vmlinux

gcc version 4.1.0 20050513 (experimental):

	bix:/usr/src/25> size vmlinux
	   text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
	 761415  151851   55280  968546   ec762 vmlinux

(There's a new reason for retaining gcc-2.95.x support)

(gcc-4.x can probably be tuned up with appropriate `-malign' options)

> And a lot of it is us just being bloated. Argh.

2.5.71, gcc-2.95.4:

	bix:/usr/src/aa/linux-2.5.71> size vmlinux 
	   text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
	 501892   54163   40420  596475   919fb vmlinux

yes, it got bigger.   .data went through the roof - maybe inlined debug stuff?

2.6.8.1, gcc-2.95.4:

	bix:/usr/src/aa/linux-2.6.8.1> size vmlinux
	   text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
	 605032  153817   58176  817025   c7781 vmlinux


It happened somewhere between 2.5.71 and 2.6.8.

2.4.x doesn't have allnoconfig, so no numbers for that.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-01  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-29 17:26 Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-10-29 18:57 ` Tony Luck
2005-10-29 19:51   ` Russell King
2005-10-29 20:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-29 20:44       ` Akula2
2005-10-29 23:28         ` Greg KH
2005-10-29 22:29       ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-29 22:37         ` Russell King
2005-10-30 19:12           ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-30 21:43             ` Russell King
2005-10-30 22:31               ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-30 22:45                 ` Russell King
2005-10-30 22:55                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-30 23:17                     ` Russell King
2005-10-31  0:48             ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-31  0:16               ` Russell King
2005-10-31  1:22                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31  2:41                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-31  6:34                     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-10-31  7:07                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 23:58                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-11-01  0:05                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-01  0:13                         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-01  0:34                           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2005-11-01  0:59                             ` Grant Coady
2005-11-01 14:08                             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-01 15:15                             ` Nix
2005-11-01 15:26                             ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-02  5:01                             ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-02  5:43                               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-02  5:56                                 ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-02  6:05                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-02  6:15                                     ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-02 15:54                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-02 17:48                                         ` Dave Jones
2005-11-02 18:12                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-02 20:11                                           ` David Lang
2005-11-02 22:31                                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-11-03 18:54                                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-02 23:11                                     ` Rob Landley
2005-11-04 22:08                                     ` Tim Bird
2005-11-04 22:35                                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-04 23:33                                         ` Tim Bird
2005-11-02 15:41                             ` Andreas Kleen
2005-11-01  7:52                           ` Russell King
2005-11-01  9:09                           ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 14:15                           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-01  0:17                         ` Roman Zippel
2005-11-01  0:34                           ` Jesse Barnes
2005-10-31  1:10               ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31  5:05               ` Rob Landley
2005-10-31  7:17                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31  8:47                   ` Rogério Brito
2005-10-31  9:54                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-02  5:04                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-30 21:32         ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-10-31  0:45           ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-31  0:18             ` Al Viro
2005-10-31  3:14               ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31  3:34                 ` Al Viro
2005-10-31  6:17                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31  7:22                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31  7:27                     ` Al Viro
2005-10-31  8:19                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-02  4:53                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02  4:49               ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-31  4:52             ` Rob Landley
2005-11-02 14:44               ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-30  1:12       ` Tony Luck
2005-10-31  6:41       ` Willy Tarreau
2005-11-07  4:54         ` Eric Sandall
2005-11-07 16:12           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-11-07 17:11             ` Christopher Friesen
2005-11-07 17:22               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 17:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 20:34                   ` Willy Tarreau
2005-11-07 18:25               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-10-30  0:37 ` Jesper Juhl

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