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From: Eric Sandall <eric@sandall.us>
To: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Ciarrocchi <paolo.ciarrocchi@gmail.com>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: New (now current development process)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 20:54:30 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0511062052590.24477@cerberus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051031064109.GO22601@alpha.home.local>

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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 01:28:23PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>> So I'm planning on continuing with it unchanged for now. Two-week merge
>> window until -rc1, and then another -rc kernel roughly every week until
>> release. With the goal being 6 weeks, and 8 weeks being ok.
>>
>> I don't think anybody has been really unhappy with this approach? Hmm?
>
> I believe it was a good experience. However, I still find it sad that
> there are changes between the latest -rc and the final version. This
> time, it seems it did not cause trouble, but in the past, it happened
> several times, because any valid fix can have side effects.
>
> I think that if you could announce what you intend to release with a
> message like "I will make this -final tomorrow", there would be some
> time to test builds in various configs, and check that no obvious bug
> has been introduced.

A -final should never be changed from the last -rc. That defeats the
purpose of having -rc releases (rc == 'release candidate' ;)). If you
do make changes to the last -rc, then you need to release another -rc
with those changes. If all's good, then you can release that /last/
- -rc with /no/ changes as the One and True Release.

- -sandalle

- --
Eric Sandall                     |  Source Mage GNU/Linux Developer
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http://eric.sandall.us/          |  SysAdmin @ Inst. Shock Physics @ WSU
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-07  4:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-29 17:26 Paolo Ciarrocchi
2005-10-29 18:57 ` Tony Luck
2005-10-29 19:51   ` Russell King
2005-10-29 20:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-10-29 20:44       ` Akula2
2005-10-29 23:28         ` Greg KH
2005-10-29 22:29       ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-29 22:37         ` Russell King
2005-10-30 19:12           ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-30 21:43             ` Russell King
2005-10-30 22:31               ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-30 22:45                 ` Russell King
2005-10-30 22:55                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-30 23:17                     ` Russell King
2005-10-31  0:48             ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-31  0:16               ` Russell King
2005-10-31  1:22                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31  2:41                   ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-31  6:34                     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-10-31  7:07                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31 23:58                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-11-01  0:05                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-01  0:13                         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-01  0:34                           ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-01  0:59                             ` Grant Coady
2005-11-01 14:08                             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-01 15:15                             ` Nix
2005-11-01 15:26                             ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-02  5:01                             ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-02  5:43                               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-02  5:56                                 ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-02  6:05                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-02  6:15                                     ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-02 15:54                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-02 17:48                                         ` Dave Jones
2005-11-02 18:12                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-02 20:11                                           ` David Lang
2005-11-02 22:31                                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-11-03 18:54                                               ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-02 23:11                                     ` Rob Landley
2005-11-04 22:08                                     ` Tim Bird
2005-11-04 22:35                                       ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-04 23:33                                         ` Tim Bird
2005-11-02 15:41                             ` Andreas Kleen
2005-11-01  7:52                           ` Russell King
2005-11-01  9:09                           ` Rob Landley
2005-11-01 14:15                           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-01  0:17                         ` Roman Zippel
2005-11-01  0:34                           ` Jesse Barnes
2005-10-31  1:10               ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31  5:05               ` Rob Landley
2005-10-31  7:17                 ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31  8:47                   ` Rogério Brito
2005-10-31  9:54                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-11-02  5:04                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-30 21:32         ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-10-31  0:45           ` Andi Kleen
2005-10-31  0:18             ` Al Viro
2005-10-31  3:14               ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31  3:34                 ` Al Viro
2005-10-31  6:17                   ` Paul Jackson
2005-10-31  7:22                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-10-31  7:27                     ` Al Viro
2005-10-31  8:19                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-02  4:53                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-11-02  4:49               ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-10-31  4:52             ` Rob Landley
2005-11-02 14:44               ` Andreas Kleen
2005-10-30  1:12       ` Tony Luck
2005-10-31  6:41       ` Willy Tarreau
2005-11-07  4:54         ` Eric Sandall [this message]
2005-11-07 16:12           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-11-07 17:11             ` Christopher Friesen
2005-11-07 17:22               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 17:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-07 20:34                   ` Willy Tarreau
2005-11-07 18:25               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2005-10-30  0:37 ` Jesper Juhl

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