From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@arm.linux.org.uk>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@infradead.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 04/15] Generic Mutex Subsystem, add-atomic-call-func-x86_64.patch
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:57:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051220195747.GE24199@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0512201437120.11245@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 02:43:30PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> So what's wrong with having the generic code, and for those with a fast
> semapore add an arch specific?
>
> #define mutex_lock down
> #define mutex_unlock up
> #define mutex_trylock(x) (!down_trylock(x))
>
> Until the mutex code is updated to a fast arch specific implementation.
>
> Let me restate, that the generic code should not be this, but each arch
> can have this if they already went through great lengths in making a fast
> semaphore.
I have no problem with this since we can then use Nico's swp-based
implementation. Great! What seems to be happening though is that
there's a move to make these operations be generic across all
architectures.
What both Nico and myself have demonstrated is that if architectures
are placed into the generic strait-jacket, any alleged performance
benefit of mutexes is completely swamped, which in turn makes the
whole mutex idea entirely pointless.
--
Russell King
Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
maintainer of: 2.6 Serial core
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-20 19:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-19 1:35 Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 17:49 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-12-19 20:58 ` David Woodhouse
2005-12-20 4:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-20 6:30 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 8:12 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20 14:10 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 14:12 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20 14:35 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 15:05 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20 16:35 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 19:20 ` Russell King
2005-12-20 19:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-20 19:37 ` Russell King
2005-12-20 19:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 19:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 19:57 ` Russell King [this message]
2005-12-20 20:35 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-20 19:55 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 19:34 ` Russell King
2005-12-20 20:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 21:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 22:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 22:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 22:43 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-21 6:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21 2:12 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20 19:49 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 6:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21 4:16 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-21 6:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-20 4:29 ` Ingo Molnar
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