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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>, Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 04/15] Generic Mutex Subsystem, add-atomic-call-func-x86_64.patch
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:49:32 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512201438490.26663@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512201026230.4827@g5.osdl.org>

On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> >
> > Sure, and we're now more costly than the current implementation with irq 
> > disabling.
> 
> Do the timing. It may be more instructions, but I think it was you 
> yourself that timed the current thing at 23 cycles, no?

Yes.  And with my hand-optimized assembly version using 
(the equivalent of) preempt_disable/preempt_enable I get 20 cycles over 
14 instructions.  If I let gcc do it using the standard macros it gets 
worse.

The irq disabling implementation spends 23 cycles over 8 instructions.

The mutex swp-based implementation spends 8 cycles over 4 instructions.

If we make the preempt_disable/enable implementation out of line that'll 
reduce the .text size bloat, but it'LL add more cycles due to the 
additional two branches plus preserve of the return address making it 
above 23 cycles for sure.

> Special registers are almost always slower than nicely cached accesses 
> (and they all basically will be).

Sure, but do the numbers above tell you anything else?  It seems pretty 
obvious to me that simple mutexes are a real gain.  Suffice for the 
implementation to let architecture do their best to lock the mutex and 
fall back to generic code when there is contention (just like we already 
do for semaphores).


Nicolas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-20 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-19  1:35 Ingo Molnar
2005-12-19 17:49 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-12-19 20:58   ` David Woodhouse
2005-12-20  4:31     ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-20  6:30       ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20  8:12         ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20 14:10           ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 14:12             ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20 14:35               ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 15:05                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20 16:35                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 19:20                     ` Russell King
2005-12-20 19:32                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-20 19:37                         ` Russell King
2005-12-20 19:59                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 19:43                       ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 19:57                         ` Russell King
2005-12-20 20:35                         ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-20 19:55                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 18:27                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 19:34                   ` Russell King
2005-12-20 20:10                     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 21:18                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-20 22:04                         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 22:19                           ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-20 22:43                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-21  6:00                           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21  2:12                         ` Nick Piggin
2005-12-20 19:49                   ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2005-12-20 18:25               ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21  6:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21  4:16         ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-12-21  6:26           ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-20  4:29   ` Ingo Molnar

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