From: Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
To: "Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Daniel Barkalow <barkalow@iabervon.org>,
Linux Kernel ML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] duplicate #include check for build system
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:26:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060222002613.GG20204@MAIL.13thfloor.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0602211616380.12588@shark.he.net>
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 04:18:57PM -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 06:52:46PM +0100, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:29:12AM -0500, Daniel Barkalow wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Herbert Poetzl wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think the kernel style is to encourage duplicate includes,
> > > > rather than removing them. Removing duplicate includes won't
> > > > remove any dependancies (since the includes that they duplicate
> > > > will remain).
> >
> > > The style as I have understood it is that each .h file in
> > > include/linux/ are supposed to be self-contained. So it includes
> > > what is needs, and the 'what it needs' are kept small.
> > >
> > > Keeping the 'what it needs' part small is a challenge resulting
> > > in smaller .h files. But also a good way to keep related things
> > > together.
> >
> > glad that I stimulated a philosophical discussion
> > about the kernel header files and what they should
> > include or not ...
> >
> > but the idea was more to give the developers an
> > instrument to verify that they are not including
> > stuff several times, and that's actually in .h
> > and .c files, because it seems that often the same
> > header file is included twice in the _same_ file
> >
> > anyway, was this a positive or negative reply?
>
> Hi Herbert,
>
> The goal is not to remove the most possible #includes.
which I totally agree with ...
but a) how is that related to _having_ a tool to
check for duplicate includes, and b) how is it
related to removing duplicate includes in general?
let me give a simple example here:
#include <linux/pm.h>
#include <linux/sched.h>
#include <linux/proc_fs.h>
-#include <linux/pm.h>
do you think the second one is really desired?
> E.g., if sched.h already sucks in kernel.h,
> kernel.h still should be #included if the source (.c)
> files uses any APIs or extern data from kernel.h.
>
> Does that help?
no, sorry, doesn't help here ...
nevertheless thanks,
Herbert
> --
> ~Randy
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-02-22 0:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-21 1:48 Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-21 6:10 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-02-21 7:29 ` Daniel Barkalow
2006-02-21 17:52 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-02-22 0:11 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-02-22 0:18 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-02-22 0:26 ` Herbert Poetzl [this message]
2006-02-22 0:28 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-02-22 5:57 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-02-24 7:23 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-02-25 2:59 ` Randy.Dunlap
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