From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Atsushi Nemoto <anemo@mba.ocn.ne.jp>
Cc: clameter@engr.sgi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ralf@linux-mips.org, johnstul@us.ibm.com, ak@muc.de,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] simplify update_times (avoid jiffies/jiffies_64 aliasing problem)
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 00:18:34 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060304001834.0476e8e9.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060304.013153.71086081.anemo@mba.ocn.ne.jp>
Atsushi Nemoto <anemo@mba.ocn.ne.jp> wrote:
>
> akpm> I'm not sure how to resolve this, really. Worried. Have you
> akpm> socialised those changes with architecture maintainers? If so,
> akpm> what was the feedback?
>
> For a short term fix, barrier() might be a safe option.
>
>
> Add an optimization barrier to prevent prefetching jiffies before
> incrementing jiffies_64.
>
> Signed-off-by: Atsushi Nemoto <anemo@mba.ocn.ne.jp>
>
> diff --git a/kernel/timer.c b/kernel/timer.c
> index fc6646f..fdd12a5 100644
> --- a/kernel/timer.c
> +++ b/kernel/timer.c
> @@ -925,6 +925,7 @@ static inline void update_times(void)
> void do_timer(struct pt_regs *regs)
> {
> jiffies_64++;
> + barrier();
> update_times();
> softlockup_tick(regs);
> }
a) Please never ever add any form of barrier without adding a comment
explaining why it's there. Unless it's extremely obvious (and it rarely
is), it's hard for the reader to work out what on earth it's doing
there.
Example? Take a look at the smp_rmb() in ext3_get_inode_block(),
work out why it's there. Time yourself.
b) On 64-bit machines jiffies and jiffies_64 always have the same
address (don't they?) Is the compiler really going to move a read of an
absolute address ahead of a modification of the same address?
<looks>
The address of jiffies isn't known until link time, so yup, the risk
is there.
c) jiffies is declared volatile. In practice, if I know my gcc, it's
just not going to play these reordering games with a volatile.
If that's true, and if some standard (presumably c99) says that it
must be true then I don't think we need the patch.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-04 8:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-02 14:02 Atsushi Nemoto
2006-03-02 15:51 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-03-02 19:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-03 2:44 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-03-03 3:04 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-03 3:20 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-03 4:31 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-03-03 5:45 ` David S. Miller
2006-03-03 16:26 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-03-03 16:31 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-03-04 8:18 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-03-04 11:20 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-04 11:40 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-04 5:21 ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-04 23:13 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-06 2:32 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-03-04 11:42 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-04 11:44 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-04 12:33 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-03-04 16:43 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-03-03 20:17 ` john stultz
2006-03-03 21:15 ` Andrew Morton
2006-03-04 17:15 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-07-30 14:54 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-07-31 10:36 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-08-01 14:44 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-08-02 12:50 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-08-03 15:53 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-08-04 14:02 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-08-06 16:13 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-08-07 11:28 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-08-07 19:58 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-08 8:11 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-08-09 15:07 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2006-03-03 18:13 ` john stultz
2006-03-04 2:34 ` Ralf Baechle
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