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From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] kevent: core files.
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:23:12 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060728052312.GB11210@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44C930D5.9020704@oracle.com>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 02:32:05PM -0700, Zach Brown (zach.brown@oracle.com) wrote:
> 
> >> 	int kevent_getevents(int event_fd, struct ukevent *events,
> >> 		int min_events, int max_events,
> >> 		struct timeval *timeout);
> > 
> > I used only one syscall for all operations, above syscall is
> > essentially what kevent_user_wait() does.
> 
> Essentially, yes, but the differences are important.  It's important to
> have a clear syscall interface instead of nesting through multiplexers.
>  And we should get the batching/latency inputs right.  (I'm for both
> min/max elements and arguably timeouts, but I could understand not
> wanting to go *that* far.)

I completely agree that existing kevent interface is not the best, so
I'm opened for any suggestions.
Should kevent creation/removing/modification be separated too?

> > Hmm, it looks like I'm lost here...
> 
> Yeah, it seems my description might not have sunk in :).  We're giving
> userspace a way to collect events without performing a system call.

And why do we want this?
How glibc is supposed to determine, that some events already fired and
such requests will return immediately, or for example how timer events
will be managed?

> > I especially like idea about world happinness in a week or so :)
> 
> A few weeks! :)

No matter after couple of millions of years of human evolution :)

> - z

-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-28  5:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-09 13:24 Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-09 14:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-09 15:08   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25  6:17 ` David Miller
2006-07-25  6:26   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 19:18   ` Zach Brown
2006-07-27 20:06     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 21:32       ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28  5:23         ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2006-07-28 18:33           ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 18:44             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:10               ` Zach Brown
2006-07-29  3:38                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29  4:32                   ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-29 15:48                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-29 20:54                       ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30  8:08                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29 15:44                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-29 16:18                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-31 10:33                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 10:35                         ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-31 10:50                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 10:57                             ` David Miller
2006-07-31 10:59                               ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-01  7:53                                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-01  7:58                                   ` David Miller
2006-07-31 19:41                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 22:00                           ` David Miller
2006-07-31 22:16                             ` Brent Cook
2006-07-31 22:20                               ` David Miller
2006-08-01  6:24                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 22:46                         ` Zach Brown
2006-08-01  9:34                         ` [take2 0/4] kevent: introduction Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                           ` [take2 1/4] kevent: core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                             ` [take2 2/4] kevent: network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                               ` [take2 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                                 ` [take2 3/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 13:46                             ` [take2 1/4] kevent: core files James Morris
2006-08-01 13:55                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 14:27                                 ` James Morris
2006-08-01 14:34                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 23:56                             ` Zach Brown
2006-08-02  0:01                               ` David Miller
2006-08-02  6:43                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-02  6:39                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-02  7:25                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-02  7:46                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:45                         ` [take3 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:40                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                           ` [take3 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                             ` [take3 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                               ` [take3 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                                 ` [take3 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:43                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03  9:48                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:54                                 ` [take3 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 10:13                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 17:04                               ` [take3 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Badari Pulavarty
2006-08-03 17:13                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 14:40                             ` [take3 1/4] kevent: Core files Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 14:55                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 15:11                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 15:21                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 21:37                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-05 13:02                         ` [take4 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                           ` [take4 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                             ` [take4 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                               ` [take4 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                                 ` [take4 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 17:57                             ` [take4 1/4] kevent: Core files Greg KH
2006-08-05 18:10                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                         ` [take6 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  7:58                           ` David Miller
2006-08-09  8:07                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:20                               ` David Miller
2006-08-09  8:24                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                           ` [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                             ` [take6 3/3] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                               ` [take6 2/3] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 17:47                             ` [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-09 19:17                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  0:04                               ` David Miller
2006-08-09 22:21                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  6:14                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  6:42                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-10  6:48                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  7:18                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  7:50                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  8:02                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  8:22                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  0:56                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11  6:15                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  6:23                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11  6:30                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  7:04                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11  7:27                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  6:25                                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-11  6:33                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  6:38                                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-11  6:55                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:12                               ` [take7 0/1] kevent: generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:16                                 ` [take7 1/1] kevent: core files and timer/poll notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:22                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  8:40                         ` [take8 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  8:40                           ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  8:40                             ` [take8 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 15:45                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-12  8:18                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12  8:38                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-12  8:55                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-13  0:51                             ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Jeff Carr
2006-08-13  9:04                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:20                         ` [take8 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:20                           ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:20                             ` [take8 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:21                         ` [take9 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:21                           ` [take9 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:21                             ` [take9 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 13:30                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:40                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18 10:41                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-18 10:59                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 11:01                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-21 11:26                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 14:35                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-08-16 13:45                             ` [take9 1/2] kevent: Core files Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:56                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 18:08                                 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-16 19:24                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 19:45                                   ` David Miller
2006-08-16 20:06                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18 10:46                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-18 11:23                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 10:56                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-21 11:13                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 12:53                                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-21 13:01                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 13:49                                             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-21 19:09                                             ` David Miller
2006-08-16 13:26                           ` [take9 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:38                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 18:10                               ` Zach Brown
2006-08-16 12:34                         ` [take10 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:34                           ` [take10 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:34                             ` [take10 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:37                             ` [take10 1/2] kevent: Core files Mika Penttilä
2006-08-16 12:44                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18  9:35                             ` Joe Jin
2006-08-18 10:10                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  1:05           ` [RFC 1/4] kevent: core files David Miller
2006-07-27 20:58     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-07-27 21:44       ` Zach Brown
2006-07-27 22:02         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-07-28  5:39           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:01           ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 19:24             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:34               ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 19:37                 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-01  1:02     ` David Miller
2006-08-01 17:02       ` Zach Brown

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