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From: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files.
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:30:21 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060811063018.GB11230@2ka.mipt.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060810232340.ab326d3f.akpm@osdl.org>

On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:23:40PM -0700, Andrew Morton (akpm@osdl.org) wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:15:35 +0400
> Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 05:56:39PM -0700, Andrew Morton (akpm@osdl.org) wrote:
> > > > Per kevent fd.
> > > > I have some ideas about better mmap ring implementation, which would
> > > > dinamically grow it's buffer when events are added and reuse the same
> > > > place for next events, but there are some nitpics unresolved yet.
> > > > Let's not see there in next releases (no merge of course), until better 
> > > > solution is ready. I will change that area when other things are ready.
> > > 
> > > This is not a problem with the mmap interface per-se.  If the proposed
> > > event code permits each user to pin 160MB of kernel memory then that would
> > > be a serious problem.
> > 
> > The main disadvantage is that all memory is allocated on the start even
> > if it will not be used later. I think dynamic grow is appropriate
> > solution, since user will have that memory used anyway, since kevents
> > are allocated, just part of them will be allocated from possibly 
> > mmaped memory.
> 
> But the worst-case remains the same, doesn't it?  160MB of pinned kernel
> memory per user?

Yes. And now I think dynamic growing is not a good solution, since user
can not know when he must call mmap() again to get additional pages
(although I have some hacks to "dynamically" replace previously mmapped
pages with new ones).

This area can be decreased down to 70mb by reducing amount of
information placed into the buffer (only user's data and flags) without
additional hints.

-- 
	Evgeniy Polyakov

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-11  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-09 13:24 [RFC 1/4] kevent: core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-09 14:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-09 15:08   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-25  6:17 ` David Miller
2006-07-25  6:26   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 19:18   ` Zach Brown
2006-07-27 20:06     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-27 21:32       ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28  5:23         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 18:33           ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 18:44             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:10               ` Zach Brown
2006-07-29  3:38                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29  4:32                   ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-29 15:48                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-29 20:54                       ` Nicholas Miell
2006-07-30  8:08                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-29 15:44                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-29 16:18                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-07-31 10:33                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 10:35                         ` Herbert Xu
2006-07-31 10:50                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 10:57                             ` David Miller
2006-07-31 10:59                               ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-01  7:53                                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-01  7:58                                   ` David Miller
2006-07-31 19:41                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 22:00                           ` David Miller
2006-07-31 22:16                             ` Brent Cook
2006-07-31 22:20                               ` David Miller
2006-08-01  6:24                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-31 22:46                         ` Zach Brown
2006-08-01  9:34                         ` [take2 0/4] kevent: introduction Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                           ` [take2 1/4] kevent: core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                             ` [take2 2/4] kevent: network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                               ` [take2 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  9:34                                 ` [take2 3/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 13:46                             ` [take2 1/4] kevent: core files James Morris
2006-08-01 13:55                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 14:27                                 ` James Morris
2006-08-01 14:34                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01 23:56                             ` Zach Brown
2006-08-02  0:01                               ` David Miller
2006-08-02  6:43                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-02  6:39                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-02  7:25                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-02  7:46                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:45                         ` [take3 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:40                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                           ` [take3 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                             ` [take3 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                               ` [take3 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:46                                 ` [take3 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:43                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03  9:48                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03  9:54                                 ` [take3 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 10:13                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 17:04                               ` [take3 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Badari Pulavarty
2006-08-03 17:13                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 14:40                             ` [take3 1/4] kevent: Core files Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 14:55                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 15:11                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-03 15:21                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-03 21:37                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-05 13:02                         ` [take4 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                           ` [take4 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                             ` [take4 2/4] kevent: AIO, aio_sendfile() implementation Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                               ` [take4 3/4] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 13:02                                 ` [take4 4/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-05 17:57                             ` [take4 1/4] kevent: Core files Greg KH
2006-08-05 18:10                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                         ` [take6 0/3] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  7:58                           ` David Miller
2006-08-09  8:07                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:20                               ` David Miller
2006-08-09  8:24                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                           ` [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                             ` [take6 3/3] kevent: Network AIO, socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09  8:02                               ` [take6 2/3] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-09 17:47                             ` [take6 1/3] kevent: Core files Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-09 19:17                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  0:04                               ` David Miller
2006-08-09 22:21                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  6:14                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  6:42                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-10  6:48                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  7:18                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  7:50                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10  8:02                                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  8:22                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  0:56                                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11  6:15                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  6:23                                             ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11  6:30                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov [this message]
2006-08-11  7:04                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-11  7:27                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  6:25                                             ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-11  6:33                                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  6:38                                                 ` David Miller
2006-08-11  6:55                                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:12                               ` [take7 0/1] kevent: generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:16                                 ` [take7 1/1] kevent: core files and timer/poll notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-10 12:22                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  8:40                         ` [take8 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  8:40                           ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11  8:40                             ` [take8 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-11 15:45                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-12  8:18                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-12  8:38                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-12  8:55                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-13  0:51                             ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Jeff Carr
2006-08-13  9:04                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:20                         ` [take8 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:20                           ` [take8 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:20                             ` [take8 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:21                         ` [take9 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:21                           ` [take9 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-14  6:21                             ` [take9 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 13:30                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:40                                 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18 10:41                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-18 10:59                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 11:01                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-21 11:26                                         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-22 14:35                                 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-08-16 13:45                             ` [take9 1/2] kevent: Core files Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:56                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 18:08                                 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-16 19:24                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 19:45                                   ` David Miller
2006-08-16 20:06                                     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18 10:46                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-18 11:23                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 10:56                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-21 11:13                                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 12:53                                         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-21 13:01                                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-21 13:49                                             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-08-21 19:09                                             ` David Miller
2006-08-16 13:26                           ` [take9 0/2] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Christoph Hellwig
2006-08-16 13:38                             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 18:10                               ` Zach Brown
2006-08-16 12:34                         ` [take10 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:34                           ` [take10 1/2] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:34                             ` [take10 2/2] kevent: poll/select() notifications. Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-16 12:37                             ` [take10 1/2] kevent: Core files Mika Penttilä
2006-08-16 12:44                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-18  9:35                             ` Joe Jin
2006-08-18 10:10                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-08-01  1:05           ` [RFC 1/4] kevent: core files David Miller
2006-07-27 20:58     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-07-27 21:44       ` Zach Brown
2006-07-27 22:02         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-07-28  5:39           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:01           ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 19:24             ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-07-28 19:34               ` Zach Brown
2006-07-28 19:37                 ` Zach Brown
2006-08-01  1:02     ` David Miller
2006-08-01 17:02       ` Zach Brown

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