From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: dipankar@in.ibm.com
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
ego@in.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@intel.linux.com,
mingo@elte.hu, vatsa@in.ibm.com, ashok.raj@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Redesign cpu_hotplug locking.
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 23:46:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060826234618.b9b2535a.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060827061155.GC22565@in.ibm.com>
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:41:55 +0530
Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com> wrote:
> Now coming to the read-side of lock_cpu_hotplug() - cpu hotplug
> is a very special asynchronous event. You cannot protect against
> it using your own subsystem lock because you don't control
> access to cpu_online_map.
Yes you do. Please, read _cpu_up(), _cpu_down() and the example in
workqueue_cpu_callback(). It's really very simple.
> With multiple low-level subsystems
> needing it, it also becomes difficult to work out the lock
> hierarchies.
That'll matter if we do crappy code. Let's not do that?
> >
> > I rather doubt that anyone will be hitting the races in practice. I'd
> > recommend simply removing all the lock_cpu_hotplug() calls for 2.6.18.
>
> I don't think that is a good idea.
The code's already racy and I don't think anyone has reported a
cpufreq-vs-hotplug race.
> The right thing to do would be to
> do an audit and clean up the bad lock_cpu_hotplug() calls.
No, that won't fix it. For example, take a look at all the *callers* of
cpufreq_update_policy(). AFAICT they're all buggy. Fiddling with the
existing lock_cpu_hotplug() sites won't fix that. (Possibly this
particular problem can be fixed by checking that the relevant CPU is still
online after the appropriate locking has been taken - dunno).
It needs to be ripped out and some understanding, thought and design should
be applied to the problem.
> People
> seem to have just got lazy with lock_cpu_hotplug().
That's because lock_cpu_hotplug() purports to be some magical thing which
makes all your troubles go away.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-27 6:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-24 10:26 Gautham R Shenoy
2006-08-24 10:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-08-24 11:27 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-08-24 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-08-24 16:17 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-25 9:50 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-26 21:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-26 22:04 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 6:11 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 6:46 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-08-27 7:11 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 7:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 8:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-27 11:06 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 17:21 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 17:49 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 18:01 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 7:37 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 7:57 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-26 22:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-08-26 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-28 2:37 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
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