From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: dipankar@in.ibm.com, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
ego@in.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@intel.linux.com,
mingo@elte.hu, vatsa@in.ibm.com, ashok.raj@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] Redesign cpu_hotplug locking.
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:57:44 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F15E88.2090509@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060827004213.4479e0df.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:41:16 +0530
> Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com> wrote:
>>Is this too difficult for people to follow ?
>
>
> Apparently. What's happening is that lock_cpu_hotplug() is seen as some
> amazing thing which will prevent an *event* from occurring.
It prevents the event from occurring as much as a lock taken in the
prepare notifier does, right? Or am I misunderstanding something?
>
> There's an old saying "lock data, not code". What data is being locked
> here? It's the subsystem's per-cpu resources which we want to lock. We
> shouldn't consider the lock as being some way of preventing an event from
> happening.
I agree. Where possible these things should be very simple either with
the per-cpu macros, or using local locking (versus one's notifier).
I think there can be some valid use of the hotplug lock when working
with cpumasks rather than individual CPUs (or if you simply want to
prevent a cpu from going down while programming hardware) and having a
new lock and new notifier is too heavyweight. Or do we want to move
away from the hotplug lock completely?
Hmm, so I don't know if I like the idea of a reentrant rwmutex for the
hotplug lock so it can be sprinkled everywhere... call it a refcount
or not it smells slightly BKLish (looks easy but it could be a
nightmare to audit).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-27 8:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-24 10:26 Gautham R Shenoy
2006-08-24 10:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-08-24 11:27 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-08-24 11:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-08-24 16:17 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-25 9:50 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-26 21:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-08-26 22:04 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 6:11 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 6:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 7:11 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 7:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 8:57 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-08-27 11:06 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 17:21 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 17:49 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 18:01 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 7:37 ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-08-27 7:57 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-26 22:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-08-26 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-28 2:37 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
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