From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: David Wagner <daw-usenet@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 11:51:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060927115134.GC4296@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef9i4q$emc$1@taverner.cs.berkeley.edu>
Hi
On Mon 25-09-06 21:36:26, David Wagner wrote:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
> >> I'm curious about this, too. ld-linux.so is a purely unprivileged
> >> program. It isn't setuid root. Can you write a variant of ld-linux.so
> >> that reads an executable into memory off of a partition mounted noexec and
> >> then begins executing that code? (perhaps by using anonymous mmap
> >> with
> >
> >Yes, you can, but to execute your ld-linux-ignore-noexec.so variant,
> >you need to put it somewhere with exec permissions, right?
>
> Well, yes, if you write it as a binary executable -- but not if you're
> more clever. For instance, you can write a ld-linux-ignore-noexec.so.pl
> Perl script, store the Perl script on the noexec partition, and execute
> it via "/usr/bin/perl ld-linux-ignore-noexec.so.pl" (since I think
> Perl scripts can execute all of the system calls you'd need to use to
> write your own loader, since it's pretty well guaranteed that /usr/bin
> will live on a partition that is not marked noexec). Note that Perl
Ok, you are right. For noexec to be effective, interpretters need to
be well-behaved, and perl is not. Maybe we should forget about
noexec, and maybe we should fix perl, I do not know.
--
Thanks for all the (sleeping) penguins.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-27 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-23 10:30 Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 15:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-23 15:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-23 15:47 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 1:12 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-09-25 4:35 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 15:42 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 16:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-23 16:38 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 18:58 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-24 6:55 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 9:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-24 10:00 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 13:53 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-24 14:54 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 15:48 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-24 16:31 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 16:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-24 17:04 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 18:09 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 19:14 ` David Wagner
2006-09-24 19:37 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-09-24 22:49 ` David Wagner
2006-09-25 10:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-25 21:36 ` David Wagner
2006-09-27 11:51 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-09-24 20:06 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-09-24 20:22 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 23:04 ` David Wagner
2006-09-26 19:46 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 22:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-27 23:10 ` David Wagner
2006-09-27 23:38 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-09-29 1:14 ` David Wagner
2006-09-28 4:52 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-30 9:42 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 15:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 17:15 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 17:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 18:06 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 19:19 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 19:40 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 19:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-04 19:36 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-04 21:31 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 3:11 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 3:51 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 4:21 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 6:03 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-10-04 17:30 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 18:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 18:40 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 18:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 19:07 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 21:00 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-04 19:06 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 18:09 ` [patch] honour MNT_NOEXEC for access() Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-06 21:17 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-07 11:19 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 15:00 ` David Wagner
2006-10-07 16:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-07 19:14 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 19:36 ` David Wagner
2006-10-08 8:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-08 9:11 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 10:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-08 13:46 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-09 2:09 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-10-09 4:40 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 13:18 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 0:30 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-08 9:10 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 9:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-08 10:36 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 10:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-08 13:22 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 22:26 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-04 19:30 ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-10-04 3:20 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 3:17 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 13:41 ` Jeff Dike
2006-10-04 18:02 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-04 19:48 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 19:16 ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC MAP_PRIVATE mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 20:05 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-28 4:33 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-28 16:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-29 1:41 ` David Wagner
2006-09-29 20:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-29 16:54 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 19:59 ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Alan Cox
2006-09-24 20:07 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 0:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-25 17:17 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 17:43 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 20:12 ` David Wagner
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