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From: "Horst H. von Brand" <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
To: Stas Sergeev <stsp@aknet.ru>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] honour MNT_NOEXEC for access()
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 22:09:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610090209.k9929IdP009924@laptop13.inf.utfsm.cl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Stas Sergeev <stsp@aknet.ru>  of "Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:11:12 +0400." <4528C0B0.4070002@aknet.ru>

Stas Sergeev <stsp@aknet.ru> wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> >> but ld.so seems to be
> >> the special case - it is a kernel helper after all,
> > in what way is ld.so special in ANY way?

> It is a kernel helper.

Right. But what prevents anybody to have a hacked, non-testing, ld.so lying
around?

>                        Kernel does all the security
> checks before invoking it. However, when invoked
> directly, it have to do these checks itself. So it is
> special in a way that it have to do the security checks
> which otherwise only the kernel should do.

It just can't do them (reliably at least) in general. Call it a Unix/POSIX
design failure...
-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-09  3:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-23 10:30 [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 15:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-23 15:36   ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-23 15:47     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25  1:12       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-09-25  4:35         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 15:42   ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 16:04     ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-23 16:38       ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 18:58       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-24  6:55         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24  9:17           ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-24 10:00             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 13:53           ` Alan Cox
2006-09-24 14:54             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 15:48               ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-24 16:31                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 16:49                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-24 17:04                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 18:09                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 19:14                       ` David Wagner
2006-09-24 19:37                         ` Kyle Moffett
2006-09-24 22:49                           ` David Wagner
2006-09-25 10:53                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-25 21:36                           ` David Wagner
2006-09-27 11:51                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-24 20:06                       ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-09-24 20:22                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 23:04                         ` David Wagner
2006-09-26 19:46                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 22:33                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-27 23:10                         ` David Wagner
2006-09-27 23:38                           ` Jesper Juhl
2006-09-29  1:14                             ` David Wagner
2006-09-28  4:52                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-30  9:42                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 15:01                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 17:15                             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 17:23                               ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 18:06                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 19:19                                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 19:40                                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 19:54                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-04 19:36                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-04 21:31                                           ` David Wagner
2006-10-04  3:11                                     ` David Wagner
2006-10-04  3:51                                       ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04  4:21                                         ` David Wagner
2006-10-04  6:03                                           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-10-04 17:30                                           ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 18:23                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 18:40                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 18:42                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 19:07                                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 21:00                                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-04 19:06                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 18:09                                           ` [patch] honour MNT_NOEXEC for access() Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 21:34                                             ` Alan Cox
2006-10-06 21:17                                               ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-07 11:19                                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 15:00                                                   ` David Wagner
2006-10-07 16:31                                                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-07 19:14                                                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 19:36                                                       ` David Wagner
2006-10-08  8:32                                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-08  9:11                                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 10:55                                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-08 13:46                                                             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-09  2:09                                                           ` Horst H. von Brand [this message]
2006-10-09  4:40                                                             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 13:18                                               ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08  0:30                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-08  9:10                                                   ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08  9:56                                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-08 10:36                                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 10:39                                                       ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-08 13:22                                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 22:26                                             ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-04 19:30                                         ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-10-04  3:20                                       ` David Wagner
2006-10-04  3:17                               ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 13:41                                 ` Jeff Dike
2006-10-04 18:02                               ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-04 19:48                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 19:16                     ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC MAP_PRIVATE mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 20:05                       ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-28  4:33                         ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-28 16:42                           ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-29  1:41                             ` David Wagner
2006-09-29 20:50                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-29 16:54                             ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 19:59                   ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Alan Cox
2006-09-24 20:07                     ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24  0:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-25 17:17   ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 17:43   ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 20:12   ` David Wagner

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