From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: init's children list is long and slows reaping children.
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:36:21 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070406193621.GA96@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704061013060.6730@woody.linux-foundation.org>
On 04/06, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > Oops. I misread stop_machine(), it does kernel_thread(), not kthread_create().
> > So "stopmachine" threads are all re-parented to init when the caller exits.
> > I think it makes sense to set ->exit_state = -1 in stopmachine(), regadless
> > of any other changes.
>
> I agree that "->exit_state = -1" makes sense, but I disagree in that I
> don't think it *matters*.
>
> Most of the problematic kernel threads are long-running (as in "never
> exit"). Things like eventd, khelper, migration-threads etc will have init
> as their parent and never actually exit, so their ->exit_state doesn't
> matter. What matters is that they are on the children list, so when you
> have 1024 CPU's, and init has many thousand of these per-cpu threads as
> its children, then the *user* threads (that do exit) will cause problems!
>
> I'd almost prefer to just not add kernel threads to any parent process
> list *at*all*.
Yes sure, I didn't argue with that. However, "->exit_state = -1" does matter,
we can't detach process unless we make it auto-reap.
Perhaps,
--- t/kernel/exit.c~ 2007-04-06 23:31:31.000000000 +0400
+++ t/kernel/exit.c 2007-04-06 23:31:57.000000000 +0400
@@ -275,10 +275,7 @@ static void reparent_to_init(void)
remove_parent(current);
current->parent = child_reaper(current);
current->real_parent = child_reaper(current);
- add_parent(current);
-
- /* Set the exit signal to SIGCHLD so we signal init on exit */
- current->exit_signal = SIGCHLD;
+ current->exit_signal = -1;
if (!has_rt_policy(current) && (task_nice(current) < 0))
set_user_nice(current, 0);
is enough. init is still our parent (make ps happy), but it can't see us,
we are not on ->children list.
Off course, we also need to add preparent_to_init() to kthread() and
(say) stopmachine(). Or we can create kernel_thread_detached() and
modify callers to use it.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-06 19:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-06 8:42 Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 9:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 9:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 15:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 15:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 17:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 19:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06 19:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 19:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06 21:04 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-06 21:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06 19:36 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-04-06 19:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 20:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 20:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 19:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 19:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-07 20:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-08 0:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-08 15:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-05 19:51 Robin Holt
2007-04-05 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 0:51 ` Chris Snook
2007-04-06 1:03 ` Chris Snook
2007-04-06 1:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 2:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 10:43 ` Robin Holt
2007-04-06 15:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 16:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 17:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:39 ` Roland Dreier
2007-04-06 18:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 18:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 13:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-10 13:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-10 15:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 14:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 15:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-10 15:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 15:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-10 16:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-11 19:55 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-11 20:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11 21:24 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-11 20:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 18:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 18:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-06 18:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 19:16 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-06 19:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 21:29 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-06 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 22:31 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-06 22:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 22:59 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-09 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 18:09 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-09 19:28 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-04-09 19:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-09 20:03 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-10 15:12 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-10 19:17 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-09 20:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 16:41 ` Robin Holt
2007-04-09 17:37 ` Chris Snook
2007-04-06 18:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-06 19:39 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 22:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-06 22:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 23:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-11 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-10 0:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10 0:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 1:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10 6:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 9:42 ` Robin Holt
2007-04-10 1:59 ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10 2:30 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10 2:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10 7:07 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 22:20 ` Ingo Oeser
2007-04-10 5:07 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-10 5:21 ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10 6:09 ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-04-10 7:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 7:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 7:37 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10 8:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 8:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10 8:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 22:35 ` Ingo Oeser
2007-04-10 16:35 ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-10 7:44 ` Russell King
2007-04-10 8:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 8:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-10 9:33 ` Jeff Garzik
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