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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>, Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: init's children list is long and slows reaping children.
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 18:38:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m11wiv4s4k.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070407203125.GA6032@tv-sign.ru> (Oleg Nesterov's message of "Sun, 8 Apr 2007 00:31:25 +0400")

Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> writes:

> On 04/06, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps,
>> 
>> --- t/kernel/exit.c~	2007-04-06 23:31:31.000000000 +0400
>> +++ t/kernel/exit.c	2007-04-06 23:31:57.000000000 +0400
>> @@ -275,10 +275,7 @@ static void reparent_to_init(void)
>>  	remove_parent(current);
>>  	current->parent = child_reaper(current);
>>  	current->real_parent = child_reaper(current);
>> -	add_parent(current);
>> -
>> -	/* Set the exit signal to SIGCHLD so we signal init on exit */
>> -	current->exit_signal = SIGCHLD;
>> +	current->exit_signal = -1;
>>  
>>  	if (!has_rt_policy(current) && (task_nice(current) < 0))
>>  		set_user_nice(current, 0);
>> 
>> is enough. init is still our parent (make ps happy), but it can't see us,
>> we are not on ->children list.
>
> OK, this doesn't work. A multi-threaded init may do execve(). 

Good catch.  daemonize must die! 

> So, we can re-parent a kernel thread to swapper. In that case it doesn't matter
> if we put task on ->children list or not.

Yes.  We can.

> User-visible change. Acceptable?

We would have user visible changes when we changed to ktrhead_create anyway,
and it's none of user space's business so certainly.

>> Off course, we also need to add preparent_to_init() to kthread() and
>> (say) stopmachine(). Or we can create kernel_thread_detached() and
>> modify callers to use it.
>
> It would be very nice to introduce CLONE_KERNEL_THREAD instead, then

If we are going to do something to copy_process and the like let's take
this one step farther.  Let's pass in the value of the task to copy.

Then we can add a wrapper around copy_process to build kernel_thread
something like:

struct task_struct *__kernel_thread(int (*fn)(void *), void * arg,
				    unsigned long flags)
{
	struct task_struct *task;
	struct pt_regs regs, *reg;

        reg = kernel_thread_regs(&regs, fn, arg);
	task = copy_process(&init_task, flags, 0, reg, 0, NULL, NULL, NULL, 0);
	if (!IS_ERR(task))
		wake_up_new_task(task, flags);

	return task;
}

long kernel_thread(int (*fn)(void *), void * arg, unsigned long flags)
{
	struct task_struct *task;
	task = __kernel_thread(fn, arg, flags);
        if (IS_ERR(task))
        	return PTR_ERR(task);
	return task->pid;               
}

After that daemonize just becomes:

void daemonize(const char *name, ...)
{
	va_list args;

	va_start(args, name);
	vsnprintf(current->comm, sizeof(current->comm), name, args);
	va_end(args);
}

And kthread_create becomes:

struct task_struct *kthread_create(int (*threadfn)(void *data),
				   void *data,
				   const char namefmt[],
				   ...)
{
	struct kthread_create_info create;
	struct task_struct *task;

	create.threadfn = threadfn;
	create.data = data;

	/* We want our own signal handler (we take no signals by default). */
        task = __kernel_thread(kthread, create, CLONE_FS | CLONE_FILES | SIGCHLD);
	if (!IS_ERR(task)) {
		va_list args;
		va_start(args, namefmt);
		vsnprintf(task->comm, sizeof(task->comm),  namefmt, args);
		va_end(args);
	}
        return task;
}

If we are willing to go that far.  I think it is worth it to touch the
architecture specific code.  As that removes an unnecessary wait
queue, and ensures that kernel threads always start with a consistent
state.  So it is a performance, scalability and simplicity boost.

Otherwise we should just put the code in the callers of kernel_thread
like we do today.

I don't have the energy to rework all of th architecture or even a
noticeable fraction of them right now.  I have to much on my plate.
A non-architecture specific solution looks like a fairly simple
patch and I might get around to it one of these times..

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-08  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-06  8:42 Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06  9:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06  9:44   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 15:45     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 15:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 17:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 17:27           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:31             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:34           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 19:06             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06 19:15               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 19:21                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06 21:04                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-06 21:07                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-06 19:36           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 19:43             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 20:01               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 20:21                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 19:47             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 19:59               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-07 20:31             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-08  0:38               ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2007-04-08 15:46                 ` Oleg Nesterov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-05 19:51 Robin Holt
2007-04-05 20:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06  0:51   ` Chris Snook
2007-04-06  1:03     ` Chris Snook
2007-04-06  1:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06  2:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 10:43         ` Robin Holt
2007-04-06 15:38           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 16:31             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 17:32               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 17:39                 ` Roland Dreier
2007-04-06 18:04                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 18:30                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 13:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-10 13:38                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-10 15:00                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 14:51                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 15:06                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-10 15:22                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 15:53                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-10 16:17                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10 16:44                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-11 19:55                         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-11 20:17                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-11 21:24                             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-11 20:19                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-06 18:02               ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 18:21               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-06 18:56                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 19:16                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-06 19:19                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 21:29                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-06 21:51                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 22:31                           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-06 22:46                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 22:59                               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-09  8:28                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 18:09                             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-09 19:28                               ` Kyle Moffett
2007-04-09 19:51                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-09 20:03                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-10 15:12                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-10 19:17                                       ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-09 20:00                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 16:41             ` Robin Holt
2007-04-09 17:37         ` Chris Snook
2007-04-06 18:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-06 19:39         ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-06 22:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-06 22:51   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-06 23:37     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-11  7:28       ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-10  0:23   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10  0:48     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-10  1:15       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10  6:53       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  9:42       ` Robin Holt
2007-04-10  1:59     ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  2:30       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10  2:46         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-04-10  7:07           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 22:20             ` Ingo Oeser
2007-04-10  5:07         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-04-10  5:21           ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  6:09         ` Torsten Kaiser
2007-04-10  7:08           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  7:05         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  7:37           ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10  8:33             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  8:41               ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10  8:48                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10 22:35                   ` Ingo Oeser
2007-04-10 16:35           ` Matt Mackall
2007-04-10  7:44         ` Russell King
2007-04-10  8:16           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  8:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-10  9:33             ` Jeff Garzik

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