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From: Oleg Verych <olecom@flower.upol.cz>
To: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kbuild-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Another version of cleanfile/cleanpatch
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 21:14:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070606191426.GT7266@flower.upol.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070606175026.GA6303@uranus.ravnborg.org>

On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 07:50:26PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
[]
> > Many things in XXI century still can be done by tools founded 20-30
> > years ago. Why not try to?
> 
> Because your shell script is unreadable by normal human beings[*]
> while the perl script for people with a bit of perl fu can read it
> and fix/modify it.
> 
> We want tools that can be maintained and enhanced by most people.
> 
> [*] Normal human beings are people with same level of shell
> scripting/sed skills that I have just to put that straight.

In many cases i think, it's limiting one's imagination and expanding
laziness[0].

In the school algebra (usually) there are many exercises with
plain-useless equations and formulas you must solve or simplify.
Guess why? Thus my proposition. ;)

---
[0] Now, when most UNIX tools done with good quality (courtesy of the
    GNU project), it's time not to convert programmer's laziness[1] to
    ordinary one. Why there's one big and slow Bourne again shell, yet
    to have fast ([d]ash) and tiny one took more time? As result more
    efforts to remove bashizms...

[1] Ironically connected to Perl chapter of UNIX Power Tools
    <http://unix.org.ua/orelly/unix/upt/ch37_02.htm>
____

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-06 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-03 20:47 [PATCH 08/19] scripts: Make cleanfile/cleanpatch warn about long lines Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-04 16:07 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-05  7:33 ` [kbuild-devel] " Oleg Verych
2007-06-05  8:19   ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-05 12:48     ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-05 13:38     ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-05 14:12       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-05 14:57         ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-05 15:11           ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-06 17:45             ` Another version of cleanfile/cleanpatch (Re: [PATCH 08/19] scripts: Make cleanfile/cleanpatch warn about long lines) Oleg Verych
2007-06-06 17:50               ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-06 19:14                 ` Oleg Verych [this message]
2007-06-07 14:36                   ` Another version of cleanfile/cleanpatch Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-07 23:06                     ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-07 23:19                       ` [kbuild-devel] " H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-08  1:35                         ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-08  6:40                         ` [patch] scripts: clean-whitespace.sh Oleg Verych
2007-06-08  6:44                           ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-08 14:28                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-08 15:02                               ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-08 19:05                                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-08 21:07                                   ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-08  5:27                       ` Another version of cleanfile/cleanpatch Jan Engelhardt

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