From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: Dave Hansen <hansendc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
randy.dunlap@oracle.com, akpm@osdl.org, gregkh@suse.de,
mtk-manpages@gmx.net, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:11:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070613171148.GA24610@uranus.ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181752649.15815.68.camel@spirit>
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 09:37:29AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 17:06 +0200, holzheu wrote:
> > The operation of a Linux system sometimes requires to decode the
> > meaning of a specific kernel message, e.g. an error message of a
> > driver. Especially on our mainframe zSeries platform system
> > administrators want to have descriptions for Linux kernel messages.
> > They are used to that, because all other operating systems on that
> > platform like z/OS, z/VM or z/VSE have message catalogs with detailed
> > descriptions about the semantics of the messages.
>
> I'm not sure we want to make Linux more like z/* in this regard. :)
>
> The problem with your proposal is that every time a new message in the
> kernel is created or modified, you need somebody to go update that
> documentation. It's going to get out-of-sync very fast if this isn't
> done, and you either need to convince and teach each and every kernel
> contributor to follow your lead, or have a team of highly trained code
> monkeys to watch git-commits and resubmit documentation for every diff
> that touches a printk.
This is no more and no less the same situation that we have with
the kernel-doc documented functions/data in the kernel.
I like the concept that the description is kept close to the actual
usage, the tool support and that in general looks like ordinary
kernel-doc documentation.
And if people do not dare to update the kernel-doc documentation of
a function then maybe they should not send patches in first place..
If we then really want to have the important printk's documented
is another story.
Sam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-13 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-13 15:06 holzheu
2007-06-13 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 17:11 ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2007-06-13 17:42 ` holzheu
2007-06-13 16:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-13 18:09 ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:11 ` holzheu
2007-06-14 8:47 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-06-15 8:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 17:16 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-06-13 17:46 ` holzheu
2007-06-13 17:51 ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:18 ` holzheu
2007-06-13 18:32 ` Greg KH
2007-06-13 18:49 ` Dave Hansen
2007-06-13 18:49 ` Kok, Auke
2007-06-14 8:17 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-13 19:04 ` Joe Perches
2007-06-14 2:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-06-14 7:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-15 8:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-13 18:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-14 8:31 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2007-06-14 9:41 ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 10:38 ` holzheu
2007-06-14 11:47 ` holzheu
2007-06-14 12:26 ` Jan Kara
2007-06-14 15:22 ` holzheu
2007-06-15 18:42 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 18:51 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-15 19:27 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 20:01 ` Greg KH
2007-06-18 12:55 ` holzheu
2007-06-18 13:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-18 13:33 ` Jan Kara
2007-06-18 13:53 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 1:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 8:51 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 19:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-06-19 11:31 ` holzheu
2007-06-19 5:41 ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Kunai, Takashi
2007-06-18 13:11 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-18 15:35 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-06-19 0:13 ` Tim Bird
2007-06-19 3:52 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-06-15 12:40 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-18 13:42 ` holzheu
2007-06-18 14:02 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 13:48 ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Michael Holzheu
2007-06-25 15:44 ` Rob Landley
2007-06-25 18:05 ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-06-27 15:11 ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-09 5:15 ` Kunai, Takashi
2007-07-09 5:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-09 16:48 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-09 17:18 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-07-10 16:12 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 12:15 ` Michael Holzheu
2007-07-11 14:26 ` Li Yang
2007-07-11 18:13 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:32 ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 10:53 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-13 12:49 ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 13:43 ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-13 13:25 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-13 21:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-13 18:05 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14 3:54 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-15 1:56 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-07-16 19:53 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-03 18:11 ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-03 19:32 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 3:50 ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 19:02 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 3:52 ` Greg KH
2007-08-04 18:54 ` Rob Landley
2007-08-04 20:04 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-06 15:50 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-11 21:53 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-07-12 16:56 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 13:53 ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-12 16:05 ` [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer Rob Landley
2007-07-12 19:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-12 20:02 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-13 7:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-07-13 16:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13 12:43 ` Li Yang
2007-07-13 17:52 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 14:42 ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 18:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 18:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-15 19:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-15 20:25 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-16 4:40 ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-16 21:43 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-17 7:19 ` Ganesan Rajagopal
2007-07-15 18:53 ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:25 ` Rene Herman
2007-07-16 9:17 ` Dr. Keith G. Bowden
2007-07-16 2:49 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-16 3:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:24 ` Li Yang
2007-07-17 21:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-12 16:41 ` Documentation of kernel messages (Summary) Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-12 17:35 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-13 2:54 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 17:12 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-14 1:46 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-15 2:12 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-15 16:46 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-17 16:06 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 23:30 ` Tsugikazu Shibata
2007-07-13 11:54 ` Li Yang
2007-07-15 20:30 ` Rik van Riel
2007-07-09 18:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 16:25 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10 18:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-10 19:53 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 0:31 ` Tim Bird
2007-07-17 1:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-07-17 16:42 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-17 16:29 ` Rob Landley
2007-07-10 7:59 ` Li Yang-r58472
2007-07-10 6:38 ` Dave Young
2007-07-09 7:01 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 22:59 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-07-10 6:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 18:10 ` [Lf_kernel_messages] " Theodore Tso
2007-07-09 22:12 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-10 16:50 ` Rob Landley
2007-06-13 18:23 ` [RFC/PATCH] Documentation of kernel messages David Miller
2007-06-13 18:27 ` holzheu
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