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From: Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	cebbert@redhat.com, chris@atlee.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] long freezes on thinkpad t60
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:09:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070621110909.GB1685@ff.dom.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070621083931.GA18105@elte.hu>

On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 10:39:31AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl> wrote:
> 
> > BTW, I've looked a bit at these NMI watchdog traces, and now I'm not 
> > even sure it's necessarily the spinlock's problem (but I don't exclude 
> > this possibility yet). It seems both processors use task_rq_lock(), so 
> > there could be also a problem with that loop. The way the correctness 
> > of the taken lock is verified is racy: there is a small probability 
> > that if we have taken the wrong lock the check inside the loop is done 
> > just before the value is beeing changed elsewhere under the right 
> > lock. Another possible problem could be a result of some wrong 
> > optimization or wrong propagation of change of this task_rq(p) value.
> 
> ok, could you elaborate this in a bit more detail? You say it's racy - 
> any correctness bug in task_rq_lock() will cause the kernel to blow up 
> in spectacular ways. It's a fairly straightforward loop:
> 
>  static inline struct rq *__task_rq_lock(struct task_struct *p)
>          __acquires(rq->lock)
>  {
>          struct rq *rq;
> 
>  repeat_lock_task:
>          rq = task_rq(p);
>          spin_lock(&rq->lock);
>          if (unlikely(rq != task_rq(p))) {
>                  spin_unlock(&rq->lock);
>                  goto repeat_lock_task;
>          }
>          return rq;
>  }
> 
> the result of task_rq() depends on p->thread_info->cpu wich will only 
> change if a task has migrated over to another CPU. That is a 
> fundamentally 'slow' operation, but even if a task does it intentionally 
> in a high frequency way (for example via repeated calls to 
> sched_setaffinity) there's no way it could be faster than the spinlock 
> code here. So ... what problems can you see with it?

OK, you are right - I withdraw this "idea". Sorry!

Jarek P.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-21 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-24 12:04 Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 12:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 14:03   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 14:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 14:28       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 14:42         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 14:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 17:09           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 21:01             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-25  9:51               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-14 16:04                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-15 21:25                   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-16 10:37                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-17 21:46                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18  6:43                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  7:24                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18  8:12                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  8:20                             ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-19  4:22                               ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2007-06-18  8:25                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18  8:31                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  8:34                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18  9:18                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  9:38                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18  9:44                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 10:18                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 12:36                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 13:10                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 16:34                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-18 17:41                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-18 17:48                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-18 18:02                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 18:00                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-18 18:25                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-20  9:36                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-20 17:34                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21  7:30                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 15:50                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 16:08                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 16:32                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 16:44                                         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-21 17:31                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 18:29                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2007-06-21 18:44                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 19:35                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 20:09                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:14                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 20:30                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:48                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 21:06                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:42                                                       ` [patch] spinlock debug: make looping nicer Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:58                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 21:15                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-22  7:00                                                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21 20:36                                                   ` [BUG] long freezes on thinkpad t60 Eric Dumazet
2007-06-21 19:56                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:10                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21 20:23                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:12                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-26  8:42                                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-26 10:56                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-26 17:23                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27  5:23                                                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27  6:04                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27  6:20                                                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-27 19:47                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 20:10                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-27 20:17                                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-27 22:11                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-27 23:30                                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2007-06-28  0:46                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-28  3:03                                                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2007-07-02  7:06                                                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-06-21 20:16                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-22  8:17                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-23 10:36                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-06-23 16:39                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-25  6:45                                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21 20:18                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 20:36                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-21  7:38                                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-06-21  8:39                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-21 11:09                                       ` Jarek Poplawski [this message]
2007-06-21 16:01                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-22 10:38                                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-24 22:08 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2007-05-24 22:13   ` Kok, Auke
2007-05-25  6:58     ` Ingo Molnar

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